Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

The funny thing to me is that Grossman had no difficulty with pushing the blame onto his receivers for some INT's. A QB in the NFL doesn't do that..........

I also didn't see anyone really backing Grossman other than Moss. I saw where Brown, Orakpo and another player was discussing the TO's. Obviously they didn't come out and throw Grossman under the bus as he did his receivers. However, they definitely aren't happy with the TO's.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

I wonder if Beck and Jackie Battle will parallel each other performance-wise for the rest of the season.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

well, i think we're picking between two guys that aren't the answer, so...

let's just win. don't embarrass the team and the fans. thank you!

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Player_HTTR;849571]And who could we have gotten reasonably. There is a very good QB class coming out next year. Neither QB was destined to be our future just a place holder as we rebuild.[/quote]


Gotcha, but I'm still not amused.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;849736]Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. [B]She may be good for a few organisms[/B] but you know you'll never get engaged to her.[/quote]

Yeah, a couple amoebas, at most. But hopefully no bacteria.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;849736]Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.[/quote]


I wish those dumpy chicks would just leave their organisms at home. I don't want them at my house.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;849736]Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few organisms but you know you'll never get engaged to her.[/quote]Organism?

LOL...

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;849736]Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. [B]She may be good for a few organisms[/B] but you know you'll never get engaged to her.[/quote]

Insect spray will take care of that problem.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;849736]Yea, getting excited about Beck is like having the dumpy chick you knew from school move in with you. She may be good for a few [B]organisms [/B]but you know you'll never get engaged to her.[/quote]

:doh:

Epic fail

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[quote=Chico23231;849783]:doh:

Epic fail[/quote]

LMAO!!! Coffee meet the keyboard!!!! THat just made my day!!

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=#56fanatic;849746]It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.[/quote]


Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=zeesson;849794]Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005[/quote]


LOL - I wasn't referring to previous years as I have not or did not watch his games as a Bear. It has been said he is careless with the ball, which he has shown here as well. I am not debating that at all. What I am pointing out is that of the 9 pics he has thrown, several have not been on him. As stated previously, 2 last week were on Fred Davis, who said that himselft. And a couple from previous games.

QB's 99% of the time get blamed for INT's, what I am saying is that they should not be help accountable for 99% of those INT's. There is so much that goes on that the fans dont see in terms of receivers routes, whether they give up on them, or take them short, or stop the routes. A lot of the throws are anticipation throws and if a receiver deviates slightly from the route then its an incompletion or in some case picks.

Rex made mistakes last week and in previous weeks, no doubt about it. I hope Beck comes in and the offense as a whole gets a spark and runs more smooth and can put up some points.

Re: John Beck Era Begins
 

[quote=Hog1;849658]From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........[/quote]

I'd disagree with slightly, Rex is good in short to intermediate passes. Heck sometimes I wonder why he's throwing the ball so hard. It's his deep ball that is the issue. He can muster about 1 good deep ball a game... nothing more. He tends to either under throw the ball (usually) or over throw the ball.

Beck can throw the ball deep but is not accurate on the deep passes. Basically I'm saying yeah he'll get the ball down to where it needs to be but our WR's need to be able to locate, track, and go after the ball for the catch which they are not good at for some reason. I think possibly only Moss is capable of doing this. If the ball is not on the money they won't catch it.

From what I've seen though Beck being able to buy time is not going to help when the WR's can't catch or drop balls that land in their hands which is 90% of the issue's this team is having. Instead fans are pointing at Grossman saying he sucks.