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GTripp0012 02-04-2012 03:30 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;881904]I think they give McCoy one more chance.

A WR core of:
Blackmon, Greg Little, and Mohammed Massaquai (repping family baby) should be solid. A healthy Hilis and maybe Mike Tolbert (more family) is a pretty good core not to mention they have a good OL[/quote]I was watching 2008 Miami-North Carolina last night just because I was interested to see who from that game was in the NFL already (pretty much everybody), but it helped me to remember why I didn't think Greg Little was that great in last year's draft: he was a power running back in the ACC in 2008. I know he played a year as a receiver and all as UNC tried to replace Hakeem Nicks, but for a straight line running back to be drafted as a receiver in the pros?

Kind of clarifies the infatuation Mike Holmgren had with Koren Robinson over the years, does it not?

los panda 02-04-2012 03:42 PM

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seriously, can anyone confirm if i'm in the right ballpark when i estimate that manning's range was 75 yards in his prime? please

30gut 02-04-2012 04:23 PM

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[quote=los panda;881912]seriously, can anyone confirm if i'm in the right ballpark when i estimate that manning's range was 75 yards in his prime? please[/quote]There is no way to [I][B]confirm[/B][/I] but I think 75 is doubtful.
75 yards is [I][B]elite[/B][/I] distance and while Peyton Manning has a good arm he doesn't have [I][B]elite[/B][/I] arm strength.

I remember a QB Challenge w/ Hasselbeck, Vick, Aaron Brooks, Manning, Brunell and the distance competition was won with a throw [I][B]under[/B][/I] under 70 yards.

As a frame of reference Flacco (who I think we all can agree has elite arm strength?) can almost throw it 75 yards:

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los panda 02-04-2012 04:39 PM

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so i'm not in the [B]ballpark[/B] when i say 75 yards? i remember seeing a pro sling it 80 yards with no pads, maybe it was culpepper. so manning would have been in the 60-65 yard [B]ballpark[/B] in his prime?

thank you for responding, i'm trying to get a frame of reference for his "recovery". i think his range is roughly 40 yards right now. i can throw 50 yards on my best day and i stopped growing when i was in 7th grade.

Mechanix544 02-04-2012 06:33 PM

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I think Peyton Manning is going to come back, wherever he is next year with a fkking HUGE chip on his shoulder, and remind all the naysayers exactly who the hell they are doubting. I just hope he is on this team while he proves all the negative nancies completely wrong.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-04-2012 06:37 PM

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Flacco and Cutler to me have the strongest arms in the league.

Mechanix544 02-04-2012 06:44 PM

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Cutler for sure

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-04-2012 07:54 PM

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[quote=Mechanix544;881949]I think Peyton Manning is going to come back, wherever he is next year with a fkking HUGE chip on his shoulder, and remind all the naysayers exactly who the hell they are doubting. [B]I just hope he is on this team[/B] while he proves all the negative nancies completely wrong.[/quote]

I could live with that :)

I also don't want him on an NFC East roster if it is not us.

30gut 02-04-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Peyton manning cleared to play
 
[quote=los panda;881923]so i'm not in the [B]ballpark[/B] when i say 75 yards? i remember seeing a pro sling it 80 yards with no pads, maybe it was culpepper. so manning would have been in the 60-65 yard [B]ballpark[/B] in his prime?

thank you for responding, i'm trying to get a frame of reference for his "recovery". i think his range is roughly 40 yards right now. i can throw 50 yards on my best day and i stopped growing when i was in 7th grade.[/quote]My guess on the 80 yards club would be Elway, Cunningham (i recall seeing him throw it 78 at the QB challenge) Mike Vick and Kyle Boller.
But it wouldn't surprise if Culpepper could chuck it 80 before his knee got trashed.

Yeah, my guess would be 60 yards club for PM.

I got no clue on how to even guess at what his range is right now.

Every summer I throw with my nephew who plays at Olde Mill and my buddy who plays semi-pro.
I can throw it around 45-50 yards, used to be able to throw it 55-60 before I tore my rotator cuff.
I had a buddy in college that could throw 65+ yards baseball player that got a try out with the Marlins.
If he beamed the ball at you, you could hear it hissing.

SmootSmack 02-04-2012 10:52 PM

Re: Peyton manning cleared to play
 
What about Jeff George?

Eknox 02-04-2012 10:58 PM

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What about Jamarcus Russell?....lol!!!

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-05-2012 12:41 AM

Re: Peyton manning cleared to play
 
[quote=SmootSmack;882015]What about Jeff George?[/quote]

What about Curious George?

los panda 02-05-2012 01:18 AM

Re: Peyton manning cleared to play
 
boller, i believe. i'm pretty sure he can throw farther from one knee than i can on two feet.

skins89moss 02-05-2012 02:04 AM

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[quote=12thMan;881546]SkinzWin, you painted the exact scenario that has to be running through Bruce Allen's mind right now. Think about it, do the Redskins really want another high profile free agent that "might not" work out or the flags were there and they took the plunge anyway?

I doubt it.

This PR battle between Irsay and Manning has to be turning off potential suitors.[/quote]

We are talking about a HOF QB Peyton Manning here not, signing Jeff George. Manning has proven he is 1 of the best QB's ever to play. No GM could fault the Redskins for signing Peyton if he is healthy. He could give us 3-4 years while we find a future franchise QB. We keep all of our draft picks or trade down from #6 for more picks and get our young QB in the later rounds. This is a win situation for us. Peyton will is a top 5 QB when healthy and RGIII or Luck have not done squat in the NFL.

los panda 02-05-2012 02:15 AM

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i don't see how peyton is turning off potential suitors


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