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I remember when people said that Pierre Garçon was overpaid at 5 years 42 million, now that looks like a steal.

For example Eric Weddle signed a 5 year 40 million dollar contract, if you think Byrd isnt Worth that then I cant help you, but unless you are the OKC Thunder you aren't gonna build an entire team through the draft only. Gotta sprinkle some FA in there with some key players.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1055829]You can't expect low draft picks to come in and immediately make an impact. We struck gold with Alfmo, but how often does it happen you get a 6th or 7th round pick to come in and immediately be a starter? After a few years? Definitely a possibility, but you can't expect to sign everyone to itty bitty contracts and then hope your late round picks come through.[/quote]

Not only that, but injuries played a huge part in that. Wasn't Helu/Royster supposed to start? Both got hurt in camp and the rest is history.

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QUAKE, I would have been in the same boat when that deal was made. I was like, "Oh yay, another Peyton Manning product." but straight up, the dude can ball.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1055955]QUAKE, I would have been in the same boat when that deal was made. I was like, "Oh yay, another Peyton Manning product." but straight up, the dude can ball.[/quote]

Yeah he definitely is no Jabar Gaffney.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1055943]I remember when people said that Pierre Garçon was overpaid at 5 years 42 million, now that looks like a steal.

For example Eric Weddle signed a 5 year 40 million dollar contract, if you think Byrd isnt Worth that then I cant help you, but unless you are the OKC Thunder you aren't gonna build an entire team through the draft only. Gotta sprinkle some FA in there with some key players.[/quote]

You can use free agency, in fact I think you have to.
You just don't have to break the bank.
Good teams get the bargains and deals, like the Seahawks with Avril or Michael Bennett. Hell I would rather the Skins go the extreme route and only build through the draft like the Packers or Steelers, than break the bank on a single player.
Garcon isn't a steal at 42 million. He is getting paid exactly the amount he should be, if not being overpaid just due to position. Receivers are constantly overpaid anyway. Just my personal opinion.

Byrd is going to get Polamalu money. He just got paid around 10 mil this past year I believe. That is how much Byrd's annual salary will be. He's a great player, but in my opinion, he isn't worth that much.

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[quote=donofriose;1056046]You can use free agency, in fact I think you have to.
You just don't have to break the bank.
Good teams get the bargains and deals, like the Seahawks with Avril or Michael Bennett. Hell I would rather the Skins go the extreme route and only build through the draft like the Packers or Steelers, than break the bank on a single player.
Garcon isn't a steal at 42 million. He is getting paid exactly the amount he should be, if not being overpaid just due to position. Receivers are constantly overpaid anyway. Just my personal opinion.

Byrd is going to get Polamalu money. He just got paid around 10 mil this past year I believe. That is how much Byrd's annual salary will be. He's a great player, but in my opinion, he isn't worth that much.[/quote]

How long has it been since we "broke the bank?" And you really dont think Byrd is Worth 5 years 40-45 million or so?

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1056052]How long has it been since we "broke the bank?" And you really dont think Byrd is Worth 5 years 40-45 million or so?[/QUOTE]

Is Byrd better than ward? I haven't seen enough of ward yet but after spending time in buffalo over the last month bills fans really aren't too high on him.

Ok after looking at stats yes Byrd is better and they are the same age and I believe both played at Oregon? That's pretty cool if so.. overall I go with Byrd he's a playmaker

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They both played at Oregon. Byrd is the better player, he plays FS and Ward plays SS perdominately.

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Just one thing to point out with all the FA talk. The new TV contracts go into affect this year. So next year, we will see the cap start rising due to those. These new TV contracts are a fair amount bigger than the last ones, so its not going to be a small rise. Granted, some of that money was pulled forward to keep the cap from going down the last couple of years, but its still expected to be a decent rise on the cap.

Every FA signed now, even if overpaid, has a very good chance of being on a "cheap" contract in 2 or 3 years due to the cap going up. Even the Mike Wallace deal might look ok in a few years instead of how horrible it looks now.

Salaries of players are about to jump. And it may be a pretty significant jump with the expected rise of the cap each year.

It could hurt this year, but be a bargain contract by year 3 or 4. This is what is so odd about this FA and the next few coming up. Dont be surprised to see a team throw 12-15 mil per year at Byrd hoping its not a bad contract down the road.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1056057]They both played at Oregon. Byrd is the better player, he plays FS and Ward plays SS perdominately.[/quote]

Just sign them both then and be done with the back end of the D.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1056082]Just sign them both then and be done with the back end of the D.[/quote]

lol now that'd be awesome.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1056082]Just sign them both then and be done with the back end of the D.[/quote]

Of course the $$$ would have to be right but that is what I've been thinking. Instant makeover at safety. Position of weakness ever since #21 passed instantly turned into a position of strength.

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What about this? Move Amerson to FS and sign Mike Mitchell from Carolina to play SS. Back them up with Thomas and Gumbs( Rambo can compete but i just don't see much talent there). Thats a young and talented group that is also cheap enough to allow us cap space to address CB

When we drafted Amerson i was hoping it was to play FS. He has the size and ball skills to make the switch and he was a safety coming out of high school but switch to CB in college. When asked about playing FS in the NFL he said he was open to it and that safety was his " first love".

As for the 34th pick i'm hoping we land Zack Martin. He is a OT but has a better build for G in the NFL. He reminds me of Andy Levitre. Slide him in at LG ,move Lich to C to compete with Monty to start or be quality interior depth. Sign Jon Asamoah to start at RG and either Eric Winston or Anthony Collins to play RT (whom ever offers us the best bang for our buck). I think that would upgrade the unit quit a bit without breaking the bank

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What about this? Move Amerson to FS and sign Mike Mitchell from Carolina to play SS. Back them up with Thomas and Gumbs( Rambo can compete but i just don't see much talent there). Thats a young and talented group that is also cheap enough to allow us cap space to address CB

When we drafted Amerson i was hoping it was to play FS. He has the size and ball skills to make the switch and he was a safety coming out of high school but switch to CB in college. When asked about playing FS in the NFL he said he was open to it and that safety was his " first love".

As for the 34th pick i'm hoping we land Zack Martin. He is a OT but has a better build for G in the NFL. He reminds me of Andy Levitre. Slide him in at LG ,move Lich to C to compete with Monty to start or be quality interior depth. Sign Jon Asamoah to start at RG and either Eric Winston or Anthony Collins to play RT (whom ever offers us the best bang for our buck). I think that would upgrade the unit quit a bit without breaking the bank