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Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 10:00 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233637]Starting Haskins with an OL in disarray (injuries and no TW) would be a bad decision and can ruin a young QB’s confidence. Team is going nowhere, so lets be patient.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2019/09/30/should-washington-name-dwayne-haskins-starting-qb[/url][/quote]

Definitely agree, he needs plenty of improvement on his footwork and learning to protect himself, you can do those in practice.

PorkSkins 10-08-2019 10:28 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

Agree.

irish 10-08-2019 10:32 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.

CRedskinsRule 10-08-2019 11:01 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[QUOTE=irish;1233693]DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I think BA will get fired after the next coach has 2 abysmal years. Think of this next coach as BA's Zorn hire. No one of note is going to come but in BAs smugness he won't realize it til he is hiring a 3rd tier position coach. The fans will either revolt like with Cerrato or their complete apathy will force any stadium deal to collapse under the weight of voter rebellion against tax breaks for the Skins FO. At that point BAs value as a local politcal voice will be nil and Snyder will fire him and replace him with a third stooge with another 10year lease on life. By that point the team will be so desolate of fans that they will move to Mexico and be renamed the Aztecs.

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MTK 10-08-2019 11:03 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Snyder fired Vinny so I don't think firing Bruce is off limits.

SunnySide 10-08-2019 11:16 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=MTK;1233707]Snyder fired Vinny so I don't think firing Bruce is off limits.[/quote]

December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.

BaltimoreSkins 10-08-2019 11:34 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SunnySide;1233712]December [B]7[/B][B][/B], 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December [B]17[/B], 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.[/quote]

I thought you were going on some numerological IB tangent for a second.

irish 10-08-2019 11:34 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1233706]I disagree. I think BA will get fired after the next coach has 2 abysmal years. Think of this next coach as BA's Zorn hire. No one of note is going to come but in BAs smugness he won't realize it til he is hiring a 3rd tier position coach. The fans will either revolt like with Cerrato or their complete apathy will force any stadium deal to collapse under the weight of voter rebellion against tax breaks for the Skins FO. At that point BAs value as a local politcal voice will be nil and Snyder will fire him and replace him with a third stooge with another 10year lease on life. By that point the team will be so desolate of fans that they will move to Mexico and be renamed the Aztecs.

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What I'm says in DS will tell BA he's fired but allow him to resign and save face.

CRedskinsRule 10-08-2019 11:57 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SunnySide;1233712]December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.[/quote]

Alex Smith and Dan Snyder have been hanging out in the owner's booth, and at Sunday's game there was a prominent video shot of Alex and Dan walking on the sidelines together, with Dan staring at Alex lovingly. He may be the on his way to being the bestie that can get Dan to let go of Bruce.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEiGd5AXUAQTAOk.jpg:large[/IMG]

jamf 10-08-2019 12:03 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SunnySide;1233712]
December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired
[/quote]

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233723]I thought you were going on some numerological IB tangent for a second.[/quote]

December 17, 2019 -- Bruce will retire

December 27, 2019 -- Mark Brunell takes over GM role after Peyton Manning rejects the job offer.

mooby 10-08-2019 12:07 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=Warthog;1233640]My question is this: [B]what changes NEXT SEASON for Haskins?[/B] Is this OL going to miraculously improve in 2020? Won’t Haskins have a new HC next year? What if Haskins has to compete against Alex Smith next season - could he go another year riding pine while he watches another experienced QB beat him out due largely to his inexperience?

For every QB you list as having waited a year before starting, there are others who started on the first day of their rookie season AND THRIVED earlier due to that experience. Wentz of the Eagles is one such example.

The Redskins have not had a franchise QB in over two decades. Their extremely poor team record reflects this lack of quality in a team’s most important position. They drafted Haskins to be that franchise QB. Let him play and gain game time experience. Do you think he’s really learning anything watching Keenum or McCoy play?


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Is this really a legit question? Literally we're talking about having a new HC, a new offensive scheme to learn, new offensive linemen in front of him, new wideouts/TE/backs to throw to, [B][I]literally[/I][/B] everything could be totally different for him next year.

mooby 10-08-2019 12:09 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

With revenue sharing I don't think that's going to hit Dan as hard as it would without.

I think our best measure is working in coordination with the opposing fans that will fill Fedex every other weekend to get #firebruce chants going, as well as bringing a ton of signs to the stadium like in '09.

SkinzWin 10-08-2019 04:38 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=irish;1233693]DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.[/quote]

I don’t care how it happens as long as it happens.

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 04:56 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233733]With revenue sharing I don't think that's going to hit Dan as hard as it would without.

I think our best measure is working in coordination with the opposing fans that will fill Fedex every other weekend to get #firebruce chants going, as well as bringing a ton of signs to the stadium like in '09.[/quote]

Is Fedex field in a no fly zone? If not let's take up a collection to fly a fire bruce banner around the stadium during a game.

mooby 10-08-2019 05:21 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233783]Is Fedex field in a no fly zone? If not let's take up a collection to fly a fire bruce banner around the stadium during a game.[/quote]

+1

Get back to the grassroots. I like it.


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