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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281528]Trevon Moehrig, Safety, TCU

With the number of quality WR, OT, and LB prospects that will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, RR grabs the best free safety in the draft at 19 to help shore up the back end of the D.[/quote]

I’m coming around to this as a possibility.

If JOK, USC kid, no Top Tackles or no top three WR make it...give me the top free safety.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1282000]You don't have to buy it, it's just a fact. They scored 21.1 points per game last year, ranked 25th in the league. Six more points puts them at 27.1, good for 10th in the league.

I just don't see O-line as something that they desperately need to address. Yes it requires attention because 80% of them have contracts expiring over the next two years. However, as good as the defense was last year, the schedule is much tougher this year. If they don't address the back seven - and inject some serious talent there, the offenses they will face this year will move the ball at will, just like TB did in the playoffs.[/quote]

Pass the Kool-Aid, LOL. Previous poster was correct, offense was horrid. We don't have a single elite player on O. We have nothing at QB with any long term potential outside of Hein. Just adding six points to a per game average is not easy with nothing at QB and not a single elite player except RG.

The o-line needs to be addressed for salary cap reasons. We have one lineman who is anything but above average at best, who can't stay healthy, isn't under contract long term. Both Ts free agents after next year, are above 30 then, and are average at best. We can't hand them new deals and keep DL intact. We got owned by teams with better DLs all year long, which is a HUGE reason we only beat one winning team.

You draft BPA, you don't pigeonhole need. Our O was ATROCIOUS, but you can't fix everything in one year. It starts with QB, which we botched already.
We should be improved, but at some point you need elite players on O, especially at LT, QB.

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[quote=Chico23231;1282056]I’m coming around to this as a possibility.

If JOK, USC kid, no Top Tackles or no top three WR make it...give me the top free safety.[/quote]

Except that Moehrig isn't a prototypical FS. He's basically an athletic SS and certainly not a deep center fielder FS in NFL. No other safety warrants a 1st round pick.

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[quote=Scalper;1282058]Except that Moehrig isn't a prototypical FS. He's basically an athletic SS and certainly not a deep center fielder FS in NFL. No other safety warrants a 1st round pick.[/quote]

I’ve heard a different opinion...I’d want a free safety tho.

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[quote=punch it in;1282012]Right and he is still here. Lol. 6 points a game is not a minor tweek. Hell we were 10 points a game from being the highest scoring team in the league. Does anyone think we were close to being the highest scoring team in the league? Stats can be very misleading. A td here a fg there sounds easy. It is not.[/quote]

Ten points a game, in an average, is a TON. You are totally correct. Did anyone here ever take a statistics course, not dumbed down one, but a real one? The more samples in a mean, the harder it becomes to move the mean. Stats are not misleading, idiots misinterpreting them are.

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I changed my mind about who the team will draft after learning that the team is talking to Collins about playing as LB. If we decide to move Collins to LB, which would make it difficult to justify drafting JOK (my original guess) who is generally similar to Collins in terms of size and ability to move around quicker. Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing talents, just general.

I still believe we will target LB or Oline, whichever player with the highest grade on the board will be drafted. Although I'm still sticking with LB because I think all best Olines players will be gone by the time we pick so my guess it will be Jamin Davis or Zaven Collins.

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[quote=Scalper;1282057]Pass the Kool-Aid, LOL. Previous poster was correct, offense was horrid. We don't have a single elite player on O. We have nothing at QB with any long term potential outside of Hein. Just adding six points to a per game average is not easy with nothing at QB and not a single elite player except RG.

The o-line needs to be addressed for salary cap reasons. We have one lineman who is anything but above average at best, who can't stay healthy, isn't under contract long term. Both Ts free agents after next year, are above 30 then, and are average at best. We can't hand them new deals and keep DL intact. We got owned by teams with better DLs all year long, which is a HUGE reason we only beat one winning team.

You draft BPA, you don't pigeonhole need. Our O was ATROCIOUS, but you can't fix everything in one year. It starts with QB, which we botched already.
We should be improved, but at some point you need elite players on O, especially at LT, QB.[/quote]

The offense was "horrid" for two reasons:

1. No QB.
2. No threat opposite McLaurin.

Both have been addressed, and I am sure they are not done.

As has been said already and exhaustively, there won't be any "elite" LTs on the board at 19.

IMO, for both the long term and short term, the best and most impactful pick would be a LB or the FS, if they don't trade it. And Moehrig is projected to be a true game-changing FS.

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Don’t overthink this. Take the LT from VATech at 19

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Sims is a fucking moron

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Justin Fields gets no love from the mock drafters...lol

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Please no trades up for a QB. So much to give up for a guy that's likely not even going to play this year if all goes according to plan.

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I don't see it. I wouldn't be surprised if they took one in rounds 2-4, but not in the top 10.

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No way NE trades up 4 to take a WR. I could see them trade with Carolina though even that seems unlikely.

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Yeah the chance Fields falls to 32 are NONE