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New York Giants
Quarterbacks

Jones had a strong performance against a defense that’s fresh off of a surprisingly impressive 2020 season. In spite of being sacked four times, Jones managed the pocket well enough to push the ball downfield,[B] recording an adjusted completion rate well over 80% while posting an 11-yard average depth of target. In addition, 83% of his yardage came before the catch[/B]. Four drops — one on a wide-open touchdown pass — cost him an even better stat line.

The Giants offensive line continues to struggle in the Dave Gettleman era, but center Billy Price was particularly problematic versus Washington, losing matchups against [B]Daron Payne and Jonathan Allen to the tune of a 14% pressure rate allowed.[/B] He also allowed a sack. The rest of the unit surrendered nine additional pressures and a second sack.

Defensive Backs

New York rotated in multiple DBs on passing downs to match up with Washington's receiving corps, but starting cornerbacks Adoree' Jackson and James Bradberry performed well, allowing just 83 yards (and two touchdowns) despite being targeted 15 times. [B]Each's average depth of target was beyond eight yards (15 for Jackson), suggesting that they stood up in coverage on deeper and in-breaking routes.[/B]

Washington Football Team
Quarterback

Heinicke showed well for a backup quarterback who was making his first start of the season on a short week. His throws didn’t flash quite as bright as Jones', but he managed the game well enough to finish with a 99.5 passer rating. [B]Sixty-seven percent of his throws were short of the sticks,[/B] forcing Washington's playmakers to create yardage after the catch. He finished with over 300 yards and converted 14 first downs.

Defensive Line

Washington's young pass-rushing core flashed its potential once again, as the unit was able to affect Jones repeatedly without much action coming from Chase Young (who still had two tackles for loss on the night). [B]Payne and Allen ate up the Giants' interior, combining for 10 pressures and two sacks between their 62 snaps.[/B] Montez Sweat is proving to be an ideal secondary rusher, using his combination of length and power to rack up five pressures and a sack against New York.

Defensive Backs

Washington's trio of Benjamin St-Juste, Kendall Fuller and William Jackson III had their hands full all night, giving up 155 yards and a touchdown. [B]Jackson was asked to play more tight one-on-one coverage than his teammates[/B], and though he forced two incompletions, the reps he lost cost the defense two explosive passing gains and a 115 passer rating. His night was spared by two drops while he was the primary coverage defender.


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Role reversals. The Giants lost to us in a manner that we seem to always lose to them. When presented with the game on a silver platter, they only ran off 16 seconds of clock and settled for a field goal, leaving us 2 minutes to drive into field goal range. Then they were off-sides on the game-ending field goal miss that gave us another try at it. Feels good.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1291375]It's still early, so I'm not panicking. There's some kinks that needs to be remedied, and if the D can get in track then we're gonna be a tough out. HTTWFT![/quote]

I agree with this. I think that there must have been some real high expectations for this defense based on some of the utter dismay I have seen with regard to the first two games.

Admittedly, I thought we would see a much better defense than we have thus far, but I still believe this will be a top 10 unit in the end. I mean you couldn't have expected that they were just going to shut opponents down right off the bat - especially with all the new pieces in the secondary. Fuller and Curl are really the only dudes getting significant snaps - who also got significant snaps last year. It's going to take a minute for it to all come together. Maybe it never will...maybe JDR sucks...maybe CY is a bust... I don't think any of that is true, but time will tell.

Either way, they are 1-1, and I'm not panicking after two games.

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Dynami Brown
McLaurin
Gibson
Mckissic
RSJ
LT
Humphries
Sims
Samuel hasn’t even played yet.
We got weapons. We just need the staff to do a better job.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1291381]I agree with this. I think that there must have been some real high expectations for this defense based on some of the utter dismay I have seen with regard to the first two games.

Admittedly, I thought we would see a much better defense than we have thus far, but I still believe this will be a top 10 unit in the end. I mean you couldn't have expected that they were just going to shut opponents down right off the bat - especially with all the new pieces in the secondary. Fuller and Curl are really the only dudes getting significant snaps - who also got significant snaps last year. It's going to take a minute for it to all come together. Maybe it never will...maybe JDR sucks...maybe CY is a bust... I don't think any of that is true, but time will tell.

Either way, they are 1-1, and I'm not panicking after two games.[/quote]

Given the talent here and the natural assumption they would improve over last year when they were top 5 in a lot of categories, they are seriously underperforming right now. I don't think it's too crazy that fans expected more at this point. Long way to go, but they need to pick it up.

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[quote=MTK;1291383]Given the talent here and the natural assumption they would improve over last year when they were top 5 in a lot of categories, they are seriously underperforming right now. I don't think it's too crazy that fans expected more at this point. Long way to go, but they need to pick it up.[/quote]

Agreed. We retained most of our starters from last year with the exception of a couple - it's natural to expect improvement. At least they have plenty of time left to get the issues worked out. But if we can get improvement on the back end we have the talent to compete with nearly everybody.

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[quote=MTK;1291383]Given the talent here and the natural assumption they would improve over last year when they were top 5 in a lot of categories, they are seriously underperforming right now. I don't think it's too crazy that fans expected more at this point. Long way to go, but they need to pick it up.[/quote]

I don't think it's crazy to expect more, like I said, I expected more too.

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That Fuller blitz worked out nicely

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[quote=punch it in;1291366]Yeah i think the big picture ya gotta be happy about Jones. He was the biggest question mark. Gettleman is fired after this year and ya took the ball outta barkleys hands last night which was a mistake. But that was a gut punch. Just the way ya lost. If that was reversed i might be on a bridge right now.[/quote]

Gettlemen isn't getting fired. Between his age and his health issues there was talk of his retiring .

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Interesting stats for the linebackers:

Cole Holcomb has been in on 100% of the defensive snaps through the first two games.

Bostic - 84% vs LA / 57% vs NY

Davis - 56% vs LA / 39% vs NY

I was hoping to see Davis' snaps go UP, but it appears that both he and Bostic saw less action. It's been mostly a 4-2-5 alignment so far, and St-Juste was the beneficiary of Bostic and Davis' reduced snaps last night.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1291295]Fuller is bad now, idk what has happened.. WJ3 Is solid and will get better with the new scheme. [B]Moreland should have been kept[/B][/quote]

Don't know what you saw in Moreland, if he was any good he'd still be here.
Not even active for Texans week 1.

:saywhat:

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[quote=Giantone;1291387]Gettlemen isn't getting fired. Between his age and his health issues there was talk of his retiring .[/quote]

G1, time to take this poster down off your wall

Giants (18-48) have the worst record in the NFL since this picture was taken:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_dZzz_WEAAEZD_?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

These guys look like bitches

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[quote=davy;1291389]Don't know what you saw in Moreland, if he was any good he'd still be here.
Not even active for Texans week 1.

:saywhat:[/quote]

He was a solid #4-5CB, but to think that somehow him being here this year would be making any difference whatsoever is a bit of a stretch.

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[quote=Chico23231;1291391]G1, time to take this poster down off your wall

Giants (18-48) have the worst record in the NFL since this picture was taken:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_dZzz_WEAAEZD_?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

These guys look like bitches[/quote]

LMAO Odell is very very feminine

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Couple things about that picture, why are they wearing boots and jeans on a boat? It doesn't make you look tough it makes you look like a poser.