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[quote=jamf;1220537]Who on the current Redskins roster would be a starter on that team?

Scherff over RC Thielmann and Hopkins over Zendejas are the only sure things IMO.[/quote]

No love for Trent?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220539]No love for Trent?[/quote]

Love TW but 86 Jacoby is better than 2019 Trent.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1220544]Love TW but 86 Jacoby is better than 2019 Trent.[/QUOTE]



Tress Way? I don’t remember the punter from 86 so maybe not and i know it is a punter. [emoji17]

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[quote=punch it in;1220546]Tress Way? I don’t remember the punter from 86 so maybe not and i know it is a punter. [emoji17][/quote]

Place kickers and punters are usually an after thought on teams that have good offenses. I am a transplant Redskin fan since I moved east in 2011. I left my 40 years of 49er fandom in Cali when I left. I used to go to a couple 49er fan websites. Most the older guys like me (Late 50's on up) could not name one of the place kickers or punters on the 80's teams.

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[quote=jamf;1220544]Love TW but 86 Jacoby is better than 2019 Trent.[/quote]

naw...I love some Jacoby...But a healthy TW is a load and is an amazing athlete.

Silverback > Jacoby

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[quote=Chico23231;1220550]naw...I love some Jacoby...But a healthy TW is a load and is an amazing athlete.

Silverback > Jacoby[/quote]

I'm curious how people would rank:

Jacoby - Samuels - Trent

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[quote=Ruhskins;1220552]I'm curious how people would rank:

Jacoby - Samuels - Trent[/quote]

MAN...to be honest we've had some damn good tackles.

I like Trent over both, but Samuels and Jacoby are a toss up, probably lean Jacoby

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I wouldn't leave out Lachey

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I'd say it's safe that we all can agree on LT being the best position in Redskins history

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[quote=MTK;1220555]I wouldn't leave out Lachey[/quote]

Nope

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Not so much lately, but we've had some damn good corners too. Darrell and Champ, even though Champ was a Bronco for longer than he was a Skin, those were four very good years.

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[quote=Chico23231;1220550]naw...I love some Jacoby...But a healthy TW is a load and is an amazing athlete.

Silverback > Jacoby[/quote]

I am not sure the comparison is fair. They are both very different.
Jacoby was 6'7" 325 at a time very few were that big.
Plus he had the footspeed to pull on the counter trey like nobody else that size.
Jacoby used to battle one on one with Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Ed too Tall Jones twice a year.
I am not sure there is anyone in the NFC east right now that is as good as Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White.
When both are healthy TW is maybe a little better than Jacoby, but TW has had some knee problems that have made him miss some time and makes him susceptible to injury. Jacoby did not.
It is very close.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1220554]MAN...to be honest we've had some damn good tackles.



I like Trent over both, but Samuels and Jacoby are a toss up, probably lean Jacoby[/QUOTE]Trent is a physical freak and when healthy is the best athlete on the field.

He is the 1% of the 1%.

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[quote=MTK;1220555]I wouldn't leave out Lachey[/quote]

Indeed. So my updated comparison list:

Lachey - Jacoby - Samuels - T. Williams

I think the case for Trent would be that a lot of people would put him and Tyrone Smith as the best tackles in the league. And yeah, we've had some damn good left tackles.

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[quote=MTK;1220555]I wouldn't leave out Lachey[/quote]

He was great. Jay Schroeder for Jim Lachey - We made out out very well on that trade....

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[quote=Defensewins;1220559]I am not sure the comparison is fair. They are both very different.
Jacoby was 6'7" 325 at a time very few were that big.
Plus he had the footspeed to pull on the counter trey like nobody else that size.
Jacoby used to battle one on one with Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Ed too Tall Jones twice a year.
I am not sure there is anyone in the NFC east right now that is as good as Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White.
When both are healthy TW is maybe a little better than Jacoby, but TW has had some knee problems that have made him miss some time and makes him susceptible to injury. Jacoby did not.
It is very close.[/quote]

Glad you mentioned this. Jacoby was just so far ahead of his time. He's a HOF player, Trent I'm not so sure. I think Trent gets hurt cause he plays on so so teams. On top of that the quality of the defenses that Jacoby played against were 2nd to none. People may not remember but the Eagles literally had some of the best defenses ever back in those days. Truly great defenses. We all know about the Giants cause they won a couple SB's.

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1220563]He was great. Jay Schroeder for Jim Lachey - We made out out very well on that trade....[/quote]

This is why you always draft QB's and somehow our front office doesn't do this. Frankly it's just dumb. Stan Humphries was a good player and he was also traded. You should always have 3 QB's on your roster, a starter, a back up that could be older like Colt, and then a young guy who's there to sit, learn and compete in camp.

Just using Tom Brady as another example, that first year in 2000 they wasted a roster spot because they felt he had value. Well the rest is history but you should always have a young QB waiting in the wings. Just more nonsense by our front office not to have one.

If I were Snyder I would demand that Jay has 3 QB's and a effing fullback.

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[quote=Defensewins;1220559]I am not sure the comparison is fair. They are both very different.
Jacoby was 6'7" 325 at a time very few were that big.
Plus he had the footspeed to pull on the counter trey like nobody else that size.
Jacoby used to battle one on one with Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Ed too Tall Jones twice a year.
I am not sure there is anyone in the NFC east right now that is as good as Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White.
When both are healthy TW is maybe a little better than Jacoby, but TW has had some knee problems that have made him miss some time and makes him susceptible to injury. Jacoby did not.
It is very close.[/quote]

I can’t argue against that...but the way TW gets out in space at second level or contorts to reach a blocker in small spaces...doing that at his size. It’s kray

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[quote=skinsfan69;1220564]Glad you mentioned this. Jacoby was just so far ahead of his time. He's a HOF player, Trent I'm not so sure. I think Trent gets hurt cause he plays on so so teams. On top of that the quality of the defenses that Jacoby played against were 2nd to none. People may not remember but the Eagles literally had some of the best defenses ever back in those days. Truly great defenses. We all know about the Giants cause they won a couple SB's.[/quote]

To add, Jacoby played against the famed Bears 85-86 defense, Cowboys Doomsday defenses, , 49ers Montana and Young teams. Before salary cap the top teams were better and deeper than today.
There were Dynasty teams and there were multiple multiple dynasty teams. Teams stayed together. Look at the Patroits and Eagles championship teams from last two year already lost players.

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Over 50% of Jacoby's snaps were against future NFL Hall of Famers. No other left tackle is close to that %.

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over 50% of the recent posts have nothing to do with Redskins Free Agency.....time to start another thread

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1220572]over 50% of the recent posts have nothing to do with Redskins Free Agency.....time to start another thread[/QUOTE]



For real, I keep coming here thinking there’s FA info and I’m like oh.......


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[quote=Irrefutable;1220572]over 50% of the recent posts have nothing to do with Redskins Free Agency.....time to start another thread[/quote]

Over 60% of the time people post stuff in the wrong thread every time.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1220571]Over 50% of Jacoby's snaps were against future NFL Hall of Famers. No other left tackle is close to that %.[/quote]

is this a real stat?

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[quote=Defensewins;1220559]I am not sure the comparison is fair. They are both very different.
Jacoby was 6'7" 325 at a time very few were that big.
Plus he had the footspeed to pull on the counter trey like nobody else that size.
Jacoby used to battle one on one with Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Ed too Tall Jones twice a year.
I am not sure there is anyone in the NFC east right now that is as good as Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White.
When both are healthy TW is maybe a little better than Jacoby, but TW has had some knee problems that have made him miss some time and makes him susceptible to injury. Jacoby did not.
It is very close.[/quote]

And Charles Haley.

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Taking a break from the tackle talk, John Keim has a new podcast:

[url]https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/john-keim-report/id1455645619?mt=2[/url]

I thought it was interesting the part where John talks about how there really isn't much out there in terms of Guard free agents. And that most of the ones are available are either coming off major injury and/or old.

I look forward to when this podcast will be on twice a week.

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I think the answer here is why the heck not?

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/22/18273962/should-the-redskins-try-to-re-sign-rashad-ross"]Should the Redskins try to re-sign Rashad Ross?[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1220608]I think the answer here is why the heck not?

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/22/18273962/should-the-redskins-try-to-re-sign-rashad-ross"]Should the Redskins try to re-sign Rashad Ross?[/URL][/quote]

If we are giving serious looks to ex Tackles trying to play TE, then why aren't we giving Ross a strong look?

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[quote=Chico23231;1220609]If we are giving serious looks to ex Tackles trying to play TE, then why aren't we giving Ross a strong look?[/quote]

Fisher signs with Buffalo

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At this point I’m surprised Allen hasn’t signed Dez. I don’t really want to see it happen. But since were throwing cap space away I could see us giving him a Randal Cobb like contract.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1220621]Fisher signs with Buffalo[/quote]

Best news I’ve heard all day

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New strategy that could help the Redskins win a few more games.

[url]https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/status/1109205649991307264[/url]

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Now is the time. Trade Reed to NE for pick 101.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1220649]Now is the time. Trade Reed to NE for pick 101.[/quote]

With Reed's contract the Redskins would have to include their 2019 #1 (15) pick

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/jordan-reed-12366/[/url]

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1220649]Now is the time. Trade Reed to NE for pick 101.[/quote]

Patriots don't make stupid trades.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1220651]Patriots don't make stupid trades.[/quote]

Yeah, I know. Wishful thinking.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1220651]Patriots don't make stupid trades.[/QUOTE]



They gave us a 5th for Haynesworth.



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When Belicheck came to Richmond to scrimmage several years ago...he raved about Reed and the trouble he gave his secondary. Pats have a lot of mid round picks and nothing at TE...you’d been a fuckin retard not to call.

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[quote=MTK;1220653]They gave us a 5th for Haynesworth.



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If that's their worst, my point still stands.