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gibbsisgod 08-23-2006 10:26 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
matty, you almost make it sound like this was a pannicked move by the redskins.

I think we would have gone after him regardless of portis's injury status.we needed a good goaline back and as someone pointed out earlier with those goalline stats, he is one of the best.

12thMan 08-23-2006 10:30 AM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;207075]I don't think we gave up anything more than a 3rd round pick. I have yet to see anywhere or hear anything other than a 3rd round pick. Would Gibbs and the guys really give a 1st round pick for TJ? I don't think they would put that kind of value on a guy who only gained 380 yards last year. Redskins.com, ESPN, and NFL netword all have it as a 3rd round pick. Thats it... wouldn't they say a third round pick and a conditional pick to be named later if it were anything other than a 3rd rounder?[/quote]

That's all it was, a third round. All this rubbish about us giving up a first rounder, two picks here and there...no way. It was a third as you said.

MTK 08-23-2006 10:33 AM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;207077]matty, you almost make it sound like this was a pannicked move by the redskins.

I think we would have gone after him anyways regardless of portis's injury status.we needed a good goaline back and as someone pointed out earlier with those goalline stats, we got one of the best.[/quote]

Panic move?

Not at all.

If Betts was 100% right now I'm not sure they make this move, and if Portis was healthy I really don't think they would have made it.

I don't think it has anything to do with panic. Panic to me indicates a move made out of desperation without much thought behind it. I think this was a well calculated move.

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 10:35 AM

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[quote=RedskinPete;206949]Something went very wrong if we don't finish higher then Denver!!![/quote]

I think we'll beat them in the Super Bowl.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-23-2006 10:37 AM

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Just think everyone, when we are down on the goalline this year we will have two of the biggest backs in the NFL to pound it in. Ducket behind Sellers!! I don't think we will be throwing the ball on the 2 yard line much this year. Just pound that rock!!

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 10:40 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;207074]Where did you read that? I haven't seen anything about a 2nd rounder. A 2nd and a 3rd rounder would make no sense based on trade value charts.

The trade will be officially announced today, until then this seems to be the most logical details about the trade.[/quote]

Some article on Yahoo. I can't find it again. Probably NOT a reliable source but I did read it.

An article on ESPN mentioned a formula where we'd give up 3rd and 4th to Denver at worst.

The Broncos seem to get ALL of our draft picks.

RiggoRules 08-23-2006 10:41 AM

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To all of those screaming the sky is falling as a result of this trade, you need to go get laid or something because you are clearly wound way too tight.

We got great value for NEXT YEAR's #3 pick. NEWSFLASH: That pick will not be on the field THIS YEAR. There is a window of opportunity THIS YEAR. What we got in return was someone who can be a real goal line back -- something that we have been missing (and has cost us games).

Duckett does ease the stress of when CP will be back, but here is the part I'm really looking forward to:

Seeing what happens when Al Saunder's puts CP & TJ in the backfield at the same time. The way AS uses the FB position, this would create some amazing opportunities for mismatches that will result in points.

gibbsisgod 08-23-2006 10:42 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;207082]Just think everyone, when we are down on the goalline this year we will have two of the biggest backs in the NFL to pound it in. Ducket behind Sellers!! I don't think we will be throwing the ball on the 2 yard line much this year. Just pound that rock!![/quote]not just that, late in the game when the defense has their hands on their hips,and sucking wind after chasing portis for 3 quarters, then they have big TJ to deal with. this is gonna be fun to watch.

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 10:42 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;207082]Just think everyone, when we are down on the goalline this year we will have two of the biggest backs in the NFL to pound it in. Ducket behind Sellers!! I don't think we will be throwing the ball on the 2 yard line much this year. Just pound that rock!![/quote]

Duckett behind Sellars DOES sound awesome.

I just hope we didn't give up TOO much for it.

For Portis fantasy owners like me, don't worry....CP will still get plenty of LONG TD runs while Duckett is waiting for a goal-line situation to come in for. Portis can put the ball over the goal line from ANYWHERE on the field.

:)

It makes me replay his first carry as a Redskin against TB in my head again.

Drift Reality 08-23-2006 10:43 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvgQDM5433U]YouTube - T.J. Duckett Highlights[/url] - It looks as though he puts a good hurting on a defense.

superskins 08-23-2006 10:44 AM

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scary thought: mike sellers leading the way for TJ duckett. i wouldn't look forward to taking on that if i were on defense

Big C 08-23-2006 10:44 AM

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this is true, we can keep portis around longer if we spread the workload a little more, less hits, more years for portis, and more red zone touchdowns :)

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-23-2006 11:01 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=gibbsisgod;207087]not just that, late in the game when the defense has their hands on their hips,and sucking wind after chasing portis for 3 quarters, then they have big TJ to deal with. this is gonna be fun to watch.[/quote]


Good Point, didn't think about that. Also watching the TJ highlight video he could bust a 3rd and short for a 20 yd. gain. I think we made a great trade here. Just another piece of the Superbowl puzzle. Now if we can figure out some corner depth.

MTK 08-23-2006 11:02 AM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=RiggoRules;207086]To all of those screaming the sky is falling as a result of this trade, you need to go get laid or something because you are clearly wound way too tight.

We got great value for NEXT YEAR's #3 pick. NEWSFLASH: That pick will not be on the field THIS YEAR. There is a window of opportunity THIS YEAR. What we got in return was someone who can be a real goal line back -- something that we have been missing (and has cost us games).

Duckett does ease the stress of when CP will be back, but here is the part I'm really looking forward to:

Seeing what happens when Al Saunder's puts CP & TJ in the backfield at the same time. The way AS uses the FB position, this would create some amazing opportunities for mismatches that will result in points.[/quote]

Great points.

The future is now, that's all you can be concerned about in today's NFL.

gibbsisgod 08-23-2006 11:18 AM

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[URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=19069"]Wright On Time[/URL]


there is a very interesting quote from gibbs in this article from redskins.com

[quote] "Right now there have probably been 8-10 phone calls in here from different teams that want some of our players".[/quote]

Now i know not all of those calls were for Betts' availability. Maybe some were for Patten. Could anyone else be on the trading block?


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