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Ruhskins 10-27-2008 10:49 PM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
Well I hope all of this complaining ends when Betts gets back.

Dirtbag59 10-27-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
[quote=53Fan;494810]I liked Mason myself but if I remember right he was given a chance to return kick-offs and did'nt do to well. We needed someone who could contribute this season and Rock does that. I was pulling for Mason to do something on special teams but he did'nt. We don't have the luxury of having someone to just ride the bench. Rock makes a big contribution on special teams. Mason did'nt, and there was no way he was going to beat Betts out for the second spot. With that said, I'm not a big fan of Alexander but the season's only half over.[/quote]

At this rate I'll take a preseason hero that hits hole over a tip toe burgler anyday of the week. Personally I'm trying to figure out how Alexander ever got 1,800 yards and helped me in fantasy leagues for years without seeking out contact. I mean even Warrick Dunn will take you on.

Still Rock and Sellers deserve more carries if Alexander doesn't get his act together in practice this week. Maybe he needs more time to understand our running game but what I've seen so far hasn't made me comfortable.

dmvskinzfan08 10-28-2008 10:17 AM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
[quote=Mattyk72;494804]Obviously the people making the personnel decisions don't agree, thankfully for that.[/quote]

Yeah ok they never make wrong decisions. Keeping Tryon...Drafting 3 receviers and none have contributed. Keeping Durant Brooks over Frost. Keeping Kelly on the active roster..Signing dried up tip toe burgular. jason Taylor isn't really panning out..I hope he does. But right now...It isn't seeming that way. I will let him slide because of injuries but when he was healthy he batted balls. Does he have any sacks? Shall I continue. Thrash could return kicks or someone else for that matter. I am tired of hearing that excuse. Thrash almost returned one last year.

Someone said they need to give Rock the ball more. Why aren't they? Why did they even have to sign SA if we had Rock? I do agree we need to give Sellers the ball more. I think he is definitely under utilized. I would atleast set him up for more catches.

MTK 10-28-2008 10:39 AM

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Nobody is right all the time when making personnel decisions. But generally speaking the people calling the shots know what they're doing when compared to the armchair GM fans. We're talking about a RB that was signed for the vet min to keep the bench warm until Betts gets back. I don't understand what the fuss is all about, especially when you throw Mason into the discussion who's a freaking pratice squad player. Seriously, who cares?

firstdown 10-28-2008 10:51 AM

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;494930]Yeah ok they never make wrong decisions. Keeping Tryon...Drafting 3 receviers and none have contributed. Keeping Durant Brooks over Frost. Keeping Kelly on the active roster..Signing dried up tip toe burgular. jason Taylor isn't really panning out..I hope he does. But right now...It isn't seeming that way. I will let him slide because of injuries but when he was healthy he batted balls. Does he have any sacks? Shall I continue. Thrash could return kicks or someone else for that matter. I am tired of hearing that excuse. Thrash almost returned one last year.

Someone said they need to give Rock the ball more. Why aren't they? Why did they even have to sign SA if we had Rock? I do agree we need to give Sellers the ball more. I think he is definitely under utilized. I would atleast set him up for more catches.[/quote]
Ok, if we just stuck to Rock and he or CP got hurt then what? With all those bad decisions you pointed out its a wonder how we ever got to 6 and 2. Taylor has not been healthy all season but thats how things go sometimes.

over the mountain 10-28-2008 10:55 AM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
Why did they even sign SA if they had rock?

b/c if CP went down for any stretch in a game we would only have rock running the ball. not having a back up long snapper is one thing but going into a game with 2 runningbacks is just asking to run into trouble. (ohhh yeahhh cheesy pun intended!!)

i havent paid attention to this thread for awhile but are we still arguing over who we should have brought in to run the ball 2-3 times a game until betts comes back after the bye?

go skins!!!

side note - did anyone else notice rocks tenacity on special teams in the game right after we brought SA on board? he made 2 great tackles which i assume was his statement in regards to bringing SA in. it was nice to see, rock is a true skin.

SBXVII 10-28-2008 11:12 AM

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I'm just glad SA is working out so well like everyone said he would instead of Mason.

hail_2_da_skins 10-28-2008 11:44 AM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
I still maintain Shaun Alexander is a BUM and a waste of a roster spot. His performance through two weeks confirms my position. Through two week, he has 9 carries for 19 yards, an average of 2.1 yards per carry (horrible) and 1 catch for 9 yards. I expect more out of the primary backup running back.

Compare these lousy stats to Ladell Betts for a 6 week period. Betts had 38 carries for 156 yards, an average of 4.1 yards per carry (respectable) and 6 catches for 44 yards, 7.3 yards per catch. Alexander better pick up the pace. With Portis dinged up this week, Alexander better do more than his two yards and fall down against Pittsburgh. They will need him this week.

nyredskinsfan 10-28-2008 11:50 AM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
[quote=Mattyk72;494946]Nobody is right all the time when making personnel decisions. But generally speaking the people calling the shots know what they're doing when compared to the armchair GM fans. We're talking about a RB that was signed for the vet min to keep the bench warm until Betts gets back. I don't understand what the fuss is all about, especially when you throw Mason into the discussion who's a freaking pratice squad player. Seriously, who cares?[/quote]

Matty, most of the posters here are "Armchair GM's" "Monday Morning QB's"
It wouldn't be fun on your Warpath if it wasn't that way. I do agree with you that the Know people know more than I do, but it's still entertaining and informative getting other fans thoughts about the team. SA was a good signing just to give CP a rest if nothing else. If SA doen't fumble the damn ball he's made his paycheck.

MTK 10-28-2008 11:51 AM

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It's hard to properly gauge him on just 9 carries. Plus let's consider he's working his way back into football shape, and it's a new running game for him.

nyredskinsfan 10-28-2008 12:07 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;494970]It's hard to properly gauge him on just 9 carries. Plus let's consider he's working his way back into football shape, and it's a new running game for him.[/quote]

That too.

dmvskinzfan08 10-28-2008 01:41 PM

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I just hope Betts comes back soon. The whole reason this whole subject came up was because people were saying we didn't need 4 rbs. Mason or whomever. I stated before the season what if CP or Betts got hurt. Rock would not be a good back-up and he isn't. That's why we signed SA. We are waiting until Shaun Alexander gets back into game shape? Well Betts will be back by then. Vet Minimum. Soooo Mason would have been expensive? I am just saying their is two sides to the coin. There is nothing we as fans can do about it but discuss it.

So call it armchair gm or monday morning qb. This forum should be for you to express your opinions wrong or right. Myonly statement is that... If we didn't want to keep 4 rbs because of Rock. Why isn't he running the ball and why did we have to sign a player off the streets that isn't going to be in game shape and is old. When we could have signed someone who knew the plays more than Alexander did for a cheap cost and could potential have some upside and contribute in the future.

SA wont be able to contribute in the future and we don't have time for him to get in game shape. So what is he going to do when Betts gets back. Its better to have a young guy who is willing to wait and learn and be on the team next year to contribute than a washed up MVP who will probably be done after this season. Fin

#56fanatic 10-28-2008 01:52 PM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
I wanted to chime in on this.

As you all know I have been a big scrutinezer of the organization and what is has done in regards to free agents and draft picks. I have found myself actually taking up for Vinny lately. I look back at the last few drafts and am impressed with what we have on the team as far as youth, talent and the spot at which we obtained them.

A person earlier questioned the receivers being drafted. 1) i think you have to look at the talent these guys showed in college. 2) they were available and honestly, I dont know that Randel El can be kept next year making all that money and contributing 30 to 40 balls, so Thomas and fit in. Plus the injuries last couple of years to Moss. I think it was a good move, they were the best players at that time (debatable) as far as Fred Davis, he was the best player in college at his position. Put him on the field with cooley and other weapons and that makes us that much more dangerous. They may not contribute that much now, but these picks will be judged in the next couple of years. This is what we all wanted, picks..picks..picks and I think over the last few years we have done well.

Golston, Montgomery were both 5th round picks, both are contributing and playing very well on a top rated D. Doughty another one, 6th round. Horton was a 7th rounder. Reinhart a 3rd rounder who will be a starter. Heyer is a good example. I think this organization has really started to make quality decisions and decisions that will help us in the future.

SBXVII 10-28-2008 02:32 PM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
[quote=Mattyk72;494970]It's hard to properly gauge him on just 9 carries. Plus let's consider he's working his way back into football shape, and it's a new running game for him.[/quote]

Problem is we had someone already in football shape. We had someone who knew the plays. All we had to do was pull him back from someone elses practice squad. but.....he supposedly can't pass block. Funny ....SA hasn't been used in that capacity either. Maybe he's not good at that either?

skinsnut 10-28-2008 06:33 PM

Re: Redskins Sign Shaun Alexander (Merge) *updated*
 
I was hoping to see this thread pop up again...well, 2 games into it and Alexander's number scares me when he comes in...he has shown no threat at all.
That certainly is not better than Rock.
It is obvious to anyone watching that he should not be given the ball yet.
I know it is only a couple games, but do you honestly think Rock....or even Sellers would have less yards per carry?

Maybe we give him one more game to prove himself...but, I wouldn't give him all the backup carries, Give 8 to Alexander, 8 to Rock and see what happens.
Rock is tougher....and that is needed against Pittsburgh....Rock and Sellers are NASTY.
Alexander does not show the same level of aggression.


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