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[quote=Mattyk72;604037]what blog?[/quote]

redskins blog. nevermind. it isn't important. if you all need anything graphic or web help on here or anywhere else message me.

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Sorry guys but am I the only who finds this whole thing hysterical??? Poor Zorny...

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txredskinszornshelp&prov=st&type=lgns]Sherman Lewis goes from bingo caller to Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

"“I had to go to the senior center and cancel my bingo calling,” said the 67-year-old Lewis, who last worked in the NFL with the Detroit Lions during the 2004 season. “And I had to cancel my Meals on Wheels today.”"

I read that paragraph and I've been laughing for an hour. Let the jokes begin...

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... I'll start:

"Ok Jason, here are your new audibles: B-15, I-31, N-45, G-57, O-75"

:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;604038]redskins blog. nevermind. it isn't important. if you all need anything graphic or web help on here or anywhere else message me.[/quote]

oh Matt Terl you mean, no I'm definitely not him

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[quote=Mattyk72;604008]That's a good point and maybe we should give some credit to Vinny for trying to help the situation rather than assuming it means Zorn is hanging by an even thinner thread. [B]Or that Lewis is here as a mole for Holmgren[/B], which I think is a ridiculous assumption.[/quote]

I don't know if I'd call him a "mole" per se, but I could see him looking at game films, evaluating players, and seeing how they fit with what Holmgren is looking for.

To me, it doesn't speak well if the front office isn't confident enough in Zorn to fix the offense if they have to bring in somebody from the outside to help.

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I don't see any possible negative to this move.

1. Sherm has a ton more experience...and we have a very inexperienced Head coach
2. It lights a fire under Zorn's butt
3 It sends the players a message that they are also on borrowed time

I love this move...it is a no loss situation for the Skins...of course it may be lose-lose for Zorn personally

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I have no idea why they didn't get this guy at the beginning of the Zorn administration.

It's been mentioned before that Zorn has probably about 3 jobs. One needs at least 14 hours a day- HC, only his second year. OC/ play caller- 8 hours a day, and QB coach.
Each job is enough for one person to handle, let alone one guy for all 3.

With last year's collapse and this year's slow start- I think Cerrato figured shit, this guy has great coaching qualities but he just can't get his head above the water. He needs a bouy or everyone will get sucked down with him.

The guy is 67 and out of football for almost 5 years. He's not coaching the offense starting week 8 after a "potential" Zorn firing. That ain't gonna happen. Let's talk after the Philly game, eh?

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[quote=Mattyk72;604008]That's a good point and maybe we should give some credit to Vinny for trying to help the situation rather than assuming it means Zorn is hanging by an even thinner thread. [B]Or that Lewis is here as a mole for Holmgren, which I think is a ridiculous assumption.[/B][/quote]

This is hilarious. I feel like we're in the offseason with all these ridiculous assumptions.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;604066]Sorry guys but am I the only who finds this whole thing hysterical??? Poor Zorny...

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txredskinszornshelp&prov=st&type=lgns"]Sherman Lewis goes from bingo caller to Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

"“I had to go to the senior center and cancel my bingo calling,” said the 67-year-old Lewis, who last worked in the NFL with the Detroit Lions during the 2004 season. “And I had to cancel my Meals on Wheels today.”"

I read that paragraph and I've been laughing for an hour. Let the jokes begin...[/quote]

LOL. Seriously. It's a shit show for sure. Fazio, Arnsparger, Al Saunders, now enter Sherm Lewis. Come on. A "fresh set of eyes" ??? Sure. That was clearly the commanded "spin" from the powers that be in Ashburn given how many times I've read/heard that phrase in the last day and a half. Whatever. Undermine Zorn, try something you've done three times already with ZERO results. Whatever you say Snyderatto. Not saying Zorn has done anything to prevent this from happening, but it's obviously more of the same with this kind of (mid-season) hire.

Casserly is dead on. Kiss of Death.

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[quote=Mattyk72;604008]That's a good point and maybe we should give some credit to Vinny for trying to help the situation rather than assuming it means Zorn is hanging by an even thinner thread. Or that Lewis is here as a mole for Holmgren, which I think is a ridiculous assumption.[/quote]

I suppose Vinny deserves some credit for trying to compensate for his iffy coaching hire, but how can we not assume it's a bad thing for Zorn? I agree with your assertions about the Holmgren mole thing, but it's pretty obvious how thin Zorn's thread is now. Adding a 67 year old guy who hasn't sniffed an NFL sideline for 4+ years to help improve Zorn's supposed strengths is not a positive for his job security.

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I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines

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[quote=SmootSmack;604196]I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines[/quote]

Yeah, that could happen I guess. But I think it will go something like this.

Cerrato to Zorn, "You're fired"

Zorn to Cerrato, "OK, goodbye."

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[quote=SmootSmack;604196]I suspect that what may happen is the Redskins expect that Sherman Lewis will have a positive short-term impact.

But then I suspect that at the end of the season (or maybe before hand), Snyder and Cerrato will go to Zorn and say "Look, you've seen the impact Lewis has had and it's apparent you have too much on your plate as head coach, playcaller, and QB coach. And the support team you have here just isn't helping you out. So... you need to fire Chris Meidt and Sherman Smith (probably not Stump Mitchell."

Then, Zorn will probably (and I suspect this is what the front office expects) think well shoot those are my two top lieutenants, those are my guys, without them most of this staff isn't even mine and he'll reply with "No, I'm standing by these guys. If you don't want them around then I quit."

And the Redskins will then say "We gave him every opportunity but we appreciate his decision to move forward. We wish him continued success."

or something along those lines[/quote]

I am sure Zorn is loyal, but I can't see him giving up his shot at head coaching for loyalty to an assistant. To hear him and his wife talk, he has wanted to be a head coach for a long long time. I think the only thing they could strip from him that would give him pause is play calling.

My real hope is that Lewis helps open Zorn's eyes enough to see through whatever it is that may be preventing him from taking that next step.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;604204]I am sure Zorn is loyal, but I can't see him giving up his shot at head coaching for loyalty to an assistant. To hear him and his wife talk, he has wanted to be a head coach for a long long time. I think the only thing they could strip from him that would give him pause is play calling.

My real hope is that Lewis helps open Zorn's eyes enough to see through whatever it is that may be preventing him from taking that next step.[/quote]

Yeah I guess I should have been more clear that part of "forcing" Meidt and Smith out is the assumption that Zorn would need to hire an experienced, and part of Zorn's support of his guys is the knowledge that they let him remain in control. They're no real threat to him.

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Alright.. one thing I haven't heard mentioned.

I've heard maybe Cerratto called Holmgren for who to pick

what if cerratto and zorn were talking about it and zorn called holmgren for a suggestion?

still could be from mike, but not behind the back of zorn.. I'd imagine that zorn still keeps contact with the ol walrus