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[quote=takethecake;635761]I agree he'd be better at SS, but I honestly think reed doughty is a much better tackler and that's what we need at our safety positions: consistency. I think we'd get a lot more out of jettisoning landry for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and letting doughty and horton split time at SS. Then draft a coverage safety with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.[/quote]Reed will never have Laron's talent, but he does a couple things much better:[LIST=1][*]He does his job - that is, he plays his assignment[*]He makes sure tackles instead of going for the blow-up hit[/LIST]I said it earlier, and I'll say it again - until Steve Jackson and other defensive coaches stop tolerating Landry's immaturity and total lack of discipline, he will continue to be a liability. I see a double standard here. Carlos Rogers gets beat on a double move, and he's pulled for the rest of the game. Not Landry. Amazing that one player is held accountable and the other is not. It sends an inconsistent message.

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Landry is a moron and I'm sick of his antics every time he makes a play, he thinks it's all about him and his look at me attitude which has worn out his welcome. I hope they trade his ass in the off season, we don't need players like that.

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[quote=SouperMeister;635813]Reed will never have Laron's talent, but he does a couple things much better:[LIST=1][*]He does his job - that is, he plays his assignment[*]He makes sure tackles instead of going for the blow-up hit[/LIST]I said it earlier, and I'll say it again - until Steve Jackson and other defensive coaches stop tolerating Landry's immaturity and total lack of discipline, he will continue to be a liability. I see a double standard here. Carlos Rogers gets beat on a double move, and he's pulled for the rest of the game. Not Landry. Amazing that one player is held accountable and the other is not. It sends an inconsistent message.[/quote]

Good points.

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 

[quote=SouperMeister;635813]Reed will never have Laron's talent, but he does a couple things much better:[LIST=1][*]He does his job - that is, he plays his assignment[*]He makes sure tackles instead of going for the blow-up hit[/LIST]I said it earlier, and I'll say it again - until Steve Jackson and other defensive coaches stop tolerating Landry's immaturity and total lack of discipline, he will continue to be a liability. I see a double standard here. Carlos Rogers gets beat on a double move, and he's pulled for the rest of the game. Not Landry. Amazing that one player is held accountable and the other is not. It sends an inconsistent message.[/quote]

I wish they would bench him. I as everyone else hate the constant blow up hits. Hell, even when he does hit someone how many times is it actually a decleater? The guy thinks to much about the hard hits and hardly ever delivers them.

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Anyone else notice how aggressive landry has been the past 3 weeks? Alos, how it's getting colder, but he took off his long sleeves he was wearing in the heat?

He also looks alot BIGGER now, and seem to be going for big hits rather then the ball.


I'm not going to shout steriods from the rooftops, but it looks fishy.

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[quote=Bucket;635826]Anyone else notice how aggressive landry has been the past 3 weeks? Alos, how it's getting colder, but he took off his long sleeves he was wearing in the heat?

He also looks alot BIGGER now, and seem to be going for big hits rather then the ball.


I'm not going to shout steriods from the rooftops, but it looks fishy.[/quote]

It doesn't seem that far-fetched...his immaturity would make him a prime candidate to try and solve his technique deficiencies with juice.

...his behavior is just more bizarre each week. Landry could get a taunting penalty every 30 seconds if the refs wanted to teach him a lesson....

And SouperMeister you are right there is def a double standard. Los gets hanged for doing what Landry does like every game now, sometimes twice a game. I'm starting to wonder if Gray, Blache and the like are just scared he'll go into a rage and make a spectacle of the whole sideline if they benched him for a gameday.

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 

[quote=Bucket;635826]Anyone else notice how aggressive landry has been the past 3 weeks? Alos, how it's getting colder, but he took off his long sleeves he was wearing in the heat?

He also looks alot BIGGER now, and seem to be going for big hits rather then the ball.


I'm not going to shout steriods from the rooftops, but it looks fishy.[/quote]
People can get that big naturally. It's not like he blew up out of nowhere. I guess that the possibility is there but I haven't seen anything to really back it up; he's always been a big hit guy and he's always hit the weight room hard, our coaches don't mind and encourage both of these.

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LL has always been big, maybe people didn't notice since he usually wears long sleeves. But he's always had the guns.

His game continues to be so inconsistent. Great play one series, boneheaded one the next.

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i wouldn't say wearing long sleeves and now not wearing them has any correlation to juicing. the long sleeves early on could have been the cool-max under armor stuff that is supposed to keep you cool.

i hope he's not juicing- can't trade a guy who's suspended because he tests positive.
i want him gone.

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There was a play yesterday in the 4th quarter that really stuck out for me. Saints ball 1st and ten and Drew completed a 7 yr pass with Laron making tackle to make it 2nd and three. A very simple play with a nice pickup for the Saints. Laron started to shake his head and talk smack to the Saints sideline as if it was a third down stoppage. His antics of flexing and talking smack have been wearing on me for sometime. He is a super freak athlete but not too bright. I don't think he is even a top 30 safety in the league. His hits are ferocious but his covergae skills are mediocre at best.

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What about moving Landry to SS...and Lendy Holmes at FS?

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Or what about moving Landry to "not on the redskins" and keeping reed doughty at SS. Despite the small talent difference, I would much much rather have someone who actually knows how to tackle and plays his heart out every game.

I'd be okay with a mix of lendy holmes and kareem moore at FS - perhaps pick up a coverage safety in the draft too?

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when do you get to the point of sitting him? i cant believe after the first toasting yesterday that Gray wasn't in his ear telling him DO NOT GET BEAT DEEP! then it happens at one of the most crucial times in the game. either put him at his rightful spot, or sit his immature ass

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"No matter how it looks I'm going to try to jump on it, get the break on something," Landry said. "Staring it down, they ran a nice double move. He [Brees] stepped up in the pocket, I watched him step up in the pocket. ... Great call in that situation."

Landry accepts whatever criticism comes from the media and fans. "I mean, y'all talk about it y'all talk about it," he said. "I mean, the nature of it is how it looks.

"Y'all don't really know the play call, y'all don't really know the situation. If it's talked about it's talked about. I can't stop that. All you can do is know the truth behind it and have thick skin."

[B]Just shut up!! and do your job!![/B]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;635978]"No matter how it looks I'm going to try to jump on it, get the break on something," Landry said. "Staring it down, they ran a nice double move. He [Brees] stepped up in the pocket, I watched him step up in the pocket. ... Great call in that situation."

Landry accepts whatever criticism comes from the media and fans. "I mean, y'all talk about it y'all talk about it," he said. "I mean, the nature of it is how it looks.

"Y'all don't really know the play call, y'all don't really know the situation. If it's talked about it's talked about. I can't stop that. All you can do is know the truth behind it and have thick skin."

[B]Just shut up!! and do your job!![/B][/quote]

Maybe they should put a gag order on him and not allow him to talk to the media. "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."