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[quote=firstdown;676033]Really? So people into country music are the lowest base of society? Not sure where you have been but thats def. not true. I would say that most people who listen to country are the base of Society and this country. You left out that hip hop is also about gangs , violence and drugs.[/quote]

and country is about getting too drunk (or do you guys call it jacked up now?), dogs, and tractors.. really who I want basing my society

base of the society lol

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[quote=firstdown;675835]Anyone have good recipe for pizza dough?[/quote]

this was my pizza bible when I started making them

[url=http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm]Jeff Varasano's NY Pizza Recipe[/url]

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[quote=tryfuhl;676047]and country is about getting too drunk (or do you guys call it jacked up now?), dogs, and tractors.. really who I want basing my society

base of the society lol[/quote]

What's that old joke? What do you get when you play country music backwards? You get your job back, you get your wife back, you get your home back, you sober up

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[quote=SmootSmack;676051]What's that old joke? What do you get when you play country music backwards? You get your job back, you get your wife back, you get your home back, you sober up[/quote]

hahaha.. surprised I never heard that one

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[quote=SmootSmack;676045]I actually like some country music (Sara Evans! [B]Hellooo nurse[/B])...and I agree it really speaks to patriotism and reflects the foundation of our society. Especially songs like "Tequila makes her clothes fall off" "Naked women and beer" "Takes a whole lotta liquor to love her"[/quote]

Animaniacs FTW!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;675366]I wonder if they'll include the fact that Woodrow Wilson sent US troops into Russia to help the Whites defeat the Reds?

Perhaps they'll include the fact that when Columbus Discovered America millions of people were already here?

What form of government do the new school books say the US has: A Democracy, Oligarchy, or perhaps a multi-cultural Socialist utopia?

Are the new books going to be in English or Spanglish? Maybe they can write the new books in Mayan, so everyone will know when the world is going to end?[/quote]

Adding to that: Where in ANY textbook, have you seen any documentation of the American Holocaust? Specifically the obliteration of the Native American Indian? The "christian" settlers had no problem murdering, raping and pillaging an entire race of people in the name of "god" ...or heck, maybe it was just a land grab..Either way, you won't find it in any text book.
Also, just for goofs, Paul Revere never rode yelling "The british are coming". That is just one of THOUSANDS of historical fabrications and myths. Its good drama lacking any basis in fact.

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[quote=firstdown;675835]Anyone have good recipe for pizza dough?[/quote]
My local pizza place has given me some dough from time to time...never hurts to ask.

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[quote=dblanch66;676087]Adding to that: Where in ANY textbook, have you seen any documentation of the American Holocaust? Specifically the obliteration of the Native American Indian? The "christian" settlers had no problem murdering, raping and pillaging an entire race of people in the name of "god" ...or heck, maybe it was just a land grab..Either way, you won't find it in any text book.
Also, just for goofs, Paul Revere never rode yelling "The british are coming". That is just one of THOUSANDS of historical fabrications and myths. Its good drama lacking any basis in fact.[/quote]

True, but the Indians weren't exactly the saints who were one with nature that Hollywood paints them as either.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;675935] That is why they want to negate Jefferson( a staunch anti federalist), [/quote]


doh! its james madison.

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[quote=over the mountain;676132]umm . .. . jefferson is literally the poster boy for the federalist society. his bust is the federalist's society's insignia.

im not going to get into it, i had enough time arguing politics in law school, [B]but the federalist stand for local government and limited federal[/B]/nat'l gov't. justice scalia is a federalist.[/quote]

Hmm . . . I thought that was the complete other way around. I thought Hamilton was a Federalist and Jefferson was an anti-federalist. From what I've studied they all wanted a central / republic form of government but argued about the powers that it should have.

I assumed that the Texans want Jefferson out because they're RINOs. Limited government stands against what the Roosevelt wing of the party wants for the US.

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dang it trample, you caught my post before i could edit it. i mistakenly typed jefferson was the federalist's poster boy when really it is james madison.

but federalist stand for the position that local gov'ts should make decisions that are most intimate to the people they represent, since they are the closest to them and have a better feel for their interests/needs.

in today's society, federalist would want your local state representatives making policy regarding abortion, marriages, medical marijuana, etc. while the fed gov't would be limited to national matters such as international trade law, military, etc.

right now, there is a big argument in CA where, by state law, medical marijuana is legal but marijuana for any reason is illegal per federal rules. the fed gov't has raided medical marijuana distributors in CA under the interstate commerce clause, and CA is arguing you cant trump our state law since the fed gov' has no legit interest or standing regarding medical marijuana.

of course, the interstate commerce clause has been abused so hard that now the fed gov't can control what a farmer in idaho does with his corn since, theoreticaly, that corn could be shipped across state lines.

interstate commerce clause also was used in positive means by the fed gov't to instill national civil rights laws at places like hotels, restaurants who cannot discriminate against blacks since those black people could have traveled across state lines. so the florida state law which allowed hotels to not allow black people was deemed un constitutional under an interstate commerce clause argument.

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The story of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bank_of_the_United_States"]First Bank of United States[/URL].

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Over the Mountain:

What you proscribe to Federalist doesn't make sense to me? It's an oxymoron.

State's rights is a cause of the old right not the neo-con movement. As Saden has pointed out. It was the Federalist Hamilton that wanted a centralized bank. He also wanted a Pax Americana.

The old right that today constitutes the few conservative / libertarians out there, distrust central banks today as much as they did then. They saw it coming. We're living through the consequences today.

To have a single currency is good for the Republic. That is Federalist. I agree. Allowing private bankers to take over the monetary policy of the United States from the Treasury is nothing short of treason. For the government to issue through decree that only dollars can be used is an abuse of power. It is beyond Federalism. That is dictatorial.

As a follower of the tenants of the old right, I subscribe more to Jefferson than to Adams, Hamilton, or Madison. I don't understand how I can be a Federalist when I loathe the Federal government?

Perhaps I should dust off my Federalist Papers. Get back to you in a week.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;676198]Over the Mountain:

What you proscribe to Federalist doesn't make sense to me? It's an oxymoron.

State's rights is a cause of the old right not the neo-con movement. As Saden has pointed out. It was the Federalist Hamilton that wanted a centralized bank. He also wanted a Pax Americana.

The old right that today constitutes the few conservative / libertarians out there, distrust central banks today as much as they did then. They saw it coming. We're living through the consequences today.

To have a single currency is good for the Republic. That is Federalist. I agree. Allowing private bankers to take over the monetary policy of the United States from the Treasury is nothing short of treason. For the government to issue through decree that only dollars can be used is an abuse of power. It is beyond Federalism. That is dictatorial.

As a follower of the tenants of the old right, I subscribe more to Jefferson than to Adams, Hamilton, or Madison. I don't understand how I can be a Federalist when I loathe the Federal government?

Perhaps I should dust off my Federalist Papers. Get back to you in a week.[/quote]

Seems to me Jefferson was a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase"]federalist when it suited him[/URL]...and today we are all thankful for it.

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[quote=saden1;676237]Seems to me Jefferson was a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase"]federalist when it suited him[/URL]...and today we are all thankful for it.[/quote]

Of course he was. He was a lover of liberty when it suited him too. That never stopped him from buying, selling, and sleeping with slaves.

The point of ommiting Jefferson I believe, is because of his anti-federalist & revolutionary leanings. The Neo-cons in Texas don't want people to question the government, especially since they stand a chance of returning to power.

Your Plato-esque way of denying things and contradicting everyone never proves your own points Saden.