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[quote=SmootSmack;787664]A late round safety like Doughty, Horton, Moore...[/quote]


boom

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[quote=skinsfan69;787646]I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.[/quote]

you are talking about the safety position like it's a rb, it's not. i know it's hard to beleive but the redskins might have actually, wait for it, made a logical decision based on need and budget during free agency. i just hope to see alot more of this and less of the bs. the only thing i don't like about this trade is that it didn't happen last year, i still don't understand what happened last year, but hopefully we are on track now.

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^Agreed definitely should've pulled the trigger on this last yr, but he's durable, knows the system, and is a playmaker. He was the best available cover FS, which we haven't had since ST died. This at least shores up a weakness for 3-4 yrs.

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I think give it time we can not find all our needs in the draft we have a limited amount of picks. Have faith in the FO/coaching staff.

HTTR.

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[quote=mlmdub130;787669]you are talking about the safety position like it's a rb, it's not. i know it's hard to beleive but the redskins might have actually, wait for it, made a logical decision based on need and budget during free agency. i just hope to see alot more of this and less of the bs. the only thing i don't like about this trade is that it didn't happen last year, i still don't understand what happened last year, but hopefully we are on track now.[/quote]

You answered your own question. Last year it would have been a trade for Atogwe. This year it wasn't

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;787646]I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.[/QUOTE]

A 30 year old safety can see 3-5 years of valuable playing time. Further, he can be an on field coach to teach any diamond in the rough type players you might find. We didn't trade a pick, and we didn't put ourself in "cap hell" and we shored up an identified weakness. The great teams have valuable balance of age and youth in their locker rooms. If he was 34 I would be far more understanding of your position, but right now he should bring good leadership.

Should we have cut Fletcher last year simply because of his age?

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This can do wonders for D. Hall
Just sayn...

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[quote=44ever;787681]This can do wonders for D. Hall
Just sayn...[/quote]


You do mean the PROBOWL MVP DHall, and by far our BEST Defensive back right?

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This one is a no brainer...a clear starting caliber FS when we had ZERO....in fact at the beginning of the year we only had one FS....Moore....and he...quite frankly sucked.
I don't give a crap if the guy is older...he is only 30 for heaven's sake.
This team needs about 10 new starters....and we don't have that many draft picks.
And even if we did....only 1st and 2nd rounders usually start....so if I were the GM....I'd load up on as many free agents as I could to buy me time to be able to build through the draft again.

This will take years folks....years, to build this team.

And we are ditching a starting CB, QB and RB too?...not to mention needing a center OLB, NT, kicker...maybe a guard, OT, DT, ILB....and some of you are complaining about getting the top free agent in our arguably weakest spot? (ok...maybe NT)

C'mon guys...Rome wasn't built in a day....but this guy is a legit starter...I only wish we could keep Carlos, Portis, and McNabb for another year or 2 so we can focus on the heavy lifting positions.

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[quote=skinsnut;787685]This one is a no brainer...a clear starting caliber FS when we had ZERO....in fact at the beginning of the year we only had one FS....Moore....and he...quite frankly sucked.
I don't give a crap if the guy is older...he is only 30 for heaven's sake.
This team needs about 10 new starters....and we don't have that many draft picks.
And even if we did....only 1st and 2nd rounders usually start....so if I were the GM....I'd load up on as many free agents as I could to buy me time to be able to build through the draft again.

This will take years folks....years, to build this team.

And we are ditching a starting CB, QB and RB too?...[B]not to mention needing a center OLB, NT, kicker...maybe a guard, OT, DT, ILB....and some of you are complaining about getting the top free agent in our arguably weakest spot? [/B](ok...maybe NT)

C'mon guys...Rome wasn't built in a day....but this guy is a legit starter...I only wish we could keep Carlos, Portis, and McNabb for another year or 2 so we can focus on the heavy lifting positions.[/quote]

Go figure.........

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[quote=skinsfan69;787646]I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.[/quote]

Can't sign perfect fits all in one year. This doesn't keep us from improving the position over the next few seasons.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;787683]You do mean the PROBOWL MVP DHall, and by far our BEST Defensive back right?[/quote]

I do! :)

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IMO go get a guy in the later rounds. Find a diamond in the rough. Coach up Moore and get him healthy. That's how I'd address it. Chasing a 30 year old safety when you're not contending for a Super Bowl makes 0 sense.[/quote]

Sure, if we traded picks to get him, this doesn't make sense. [U]But since all it cost was Synder's money, who cares[/U]?? We unloaded a lot of contracts so I think we're looking good for the salary cap.

Atogwe is a good move because:
1) Free agent, didn't cost picks.
2) Seems like a good locker-room guy.
3) Good veteran who can help K.Moore/young secondary.
4) Makes our D more competitive & fun to watch.


Seeing #21 in the highlights was hard to watch. To think what could have been - at least this year we'll see a glimpse of good safety play again.

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[quote=vallin21;787672]^Agreed definitely should've pulled the trigger on this last yr, but he's durable, knows the system, and is a playmaker. He was the best available cover FS, which we haven't had since ST died. This at least shores up a weakness for 3-4 yrs.[/quote]


Can't understand why some are saying we should have done this last year. The Rams clearly overpaid for Atogwe and the proof is in the pudding, don't you think?

I think we did the right thing by not getting involved in a balloon bidding contract. Remember, we were trying to maintain a collective frugality campaign unlike the previous tag team of Snyder and Vinnie.

Atogwe is here and he comes with a reasonable contract. I don't think he will play out the 5 year contract but who cares, we have a respectable FS.

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What's the difference of getting him in '10 or now? He's a skin and we didnt give up anything for him. Im glad we waited