Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=Chico23231;994715]HTTR24_7 gives this some validity. Def has my attention now.[/quote]


No, he doesn't he was joking.



[quote=mbedner3420;994735][SIZE="4"][B]@HTTR24_7: @Mr_Reynolds81 I was just joking with @TKextremeskins .Everyone wants percentages for everything. I have no Idea if they will get cap relief[/B][/SIZE][/quote]

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@Rich_TandlerCSN @TKextremeskins All jokes aside that cap ship has probably sailed. Money back would be great though.[/B][/SIZE]


It's not going to happen people. Move on.

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=mbedner3420;994734]So when is the owners meeting?[/quote]

I thought it was something like 3 days after FA starts.

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Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=NC_Skins;994777]No, he doesn't he was joking.





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@Rich_TandlerCSN @TKextremeskins All jokes aside that cap ship has probably sailed. Money back would be great though.[/B][/SIZE]


It's not going to happen people. Move on.[/quote]

Oh I shoulda known, the good ole percentage joke. Information good, need to step up on his joke game.

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=Mayor;994798]Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?[/quote]

That's because the Bears are not in the same division as Mara's team.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;994729]PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.[/quote]

I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;994729]PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.[/quote]

I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?

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[quote=WaldSkins;994902]I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?[/quote]

Thats like saying, "Whats the point of even having a draft if teams can trade picks."

The draft contributes as much to parity as the salary cap does. For example, lets say a cap-strapped team like the Redskins needs 10MM in room to sign multiple starters. They could trade their 2nd round pick to a team for a couple average players they thought were serviceable. Or, they could trade the the 2nd round pick to a team for 10MM in space and then sign whomever they wanted. I dont really see the difference.

[quote=Monkeydad;994844]I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of![/quote]

I dont see how that would be a nightmare at all. Teams are already allowed to roll unused cap from one year to the next, so the teams already have a different amount of cap space. The NFL keeps track of this now. In the scenario i described above, you'd just be taking 10MM in space for one year from one team and giving it to another.

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I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=Mattyk;994986]I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?[/quote]

The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;994989]The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."[/quote]

Wow......that really makes you.......spit up in your mouth.

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

[quote=CrazyCanuck;994989]The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."[/quote]

Thank God those days are over.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/02/22/will-redskins-final-appeal-of-salary-cap-reduction-be-informal/]Will Redskins’ final appeal of salary cap reduction be ‘informal’?[/url]

Looks like the final appeal will be an informal one.

Translation: "Bro, come on..."

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

Time to move on from this. I really do not care about the cap space. Not a real big deal. Hopefully we can get everyone back healthy, have a great draft and maybe add a piece here and there through free agency.

Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away
 

@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.