Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

I'll keep beating this dead horse, because I'm amazed at the public's stupidity. Goodell works for the owners, such as Steve Bisciotti who owns the Ravens. While Goodell f*cked up the whole Rice situation and should suffer the consequences, it was Bisciotti and the Ravens organization who did all the cover up and sugarcoated the whole thing. Yet no one is calling for Newsome to resign or Bisciotti to sell the team.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=Chico23231;1082085][url=http://fox59.com/2014/09/11/paul-george-tweets-on-ray-rice-case-ignite-social-media-firestorm/]Paul George tweets on Ray Rice case ignite social media firestorm | Fox 59[/url]


I don't condone hittin women or think it's coo BUT if SHE ain't trippin then I ain't trippin.. Lets keep it movin lol let that man play!—
Paul George (@Yg_Trece) September 11, 2014


If you in a relationship and a woman hit you first and attacking YOU.. Then you obviously ain't beatin HER. Homie made A bad choice! #StayUp—
Paul George (@Yg_Trece) September 11, 2014


[B]un-f*cking-belivable[/B][/quote]

It is constantly amazing to me the ease with which people justify violent reactions.

- If a victim of domestic abuse "ain't trippin," maybe its b/c that's a pattern for abuse victims. But, hey, we wouldn't want to educate ourselves on the larger issues ... that might mean examining how you yourself behave. Also, one thing I realized this morning is, for all the "it was a momentary lapse," "he does so much good," etc. I have never heard Ms. Rice say "HE HAS NEVER LAID HANDS ON ME BEFORE." If she has said this, please someone tell me. To me, that would be pretty critical in any evaluation of the situation. Her failure to say it seems to me to be indicative that, while this may be the first time he knocked her out, it isn't the first time he has smacked her around.

- Was she a threat in any way to harm him? Did Ray Rice, uber-athlete, really have [I]no choice[/I] but to cold cock her? Couldn't avoid or restrain without excessive violence? So a 10 year old kid comes up to him and kicks him in the shin and spits on him, knock the little bastard out! Christ almighty.

I say it again, the veneer of civilization is very thin in much of our society.

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[quote=irish;1082069]The first people who should be investigated are the police and prosecutors who had the video and gave RR a slap on the wrist and sent him on his way.[/quote]

Tell 'em!!!!!

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NFL Network will be hosting a three hour discussion and seminar on domestic violence this evening. The seminar will be interrupted periodically with updates from a football game being played in Baltimore at the same time.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1082087]I'll keep beating this dead horse, because I'm amazed at the public's stupidity. Goodell works for the owners, such as Steve Bisciotti who owns the Ravens. While Goodell f*cked up the whole Rice situation and should suffer the consequences, it was Bisciotti and the Ravens organization who did all the cover up and sugarcoated the whole thing. Yet no one is calling for Newsome to resign or Bisciotti to sell the team.[/QUOTE]


No doubt, plenty of blame to go around. Goodell is just the easy target.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

i think this whole ray rice thing is getting out of hand.

whats next? a presidential statement on the matter? maybe some FBI investigations?

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

I'm tired of this already. I can't stand Goodell and he may be lying, but I really don't care. He's not my dad or anything. People get so bent out of shape over things that really aren't any of their business. Rice got away with hitting his wife and he got what he deserved football wise. The law messed up, so did the NFL, they'll get it right if there's a next time. But this media onslaught is ridiculous.

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Well, it's getting out of hand b/c (1) of the visceral response to the tape by everyone; (2) the "WTF" factor - how could this ever have been just a two game suspension; (3) Domestic abuse and violence against women is a hot button topic recently; (4) the appearance of a cover-up.

Frankly, I think, but for No. 4, this would begin to slowly die down. As someone said earlier, if it looks like your covering something up, all you do is heighten scrutiny (rightfully so in my opinion). Goodell & the Ravens screwed the pooch on this one initially and now their stories as to why they did so are looking like a pack of lies. Not good for moving on from the story.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=over the mountain;1082095]i think this whole ray rice thing is getting out of hand.

whats next? a presidential statement on the matter? maybe some FBI investigations?[/quote]

LOL. Seriously, it's way out of hand. The media is in a frenzy over this.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1082101]Well, it's getting out of hand b/c (1) of the visceral response to the tape by everyone; (2) the "WTF" factor - how could this ever have been just a two game suspension; (3) Domestic abuse and violence against women is a hot button topic recently; (4) the appearance of a cover-up.

Frankly, I think, but for No. 4, this would begin to slowly die down. As someone said earlier, if it looks like your covering something up, all you do is heighten scrutiny (rightfully so in my opinion). Goodell & the Ravens screwed the pooch on this one initially and now their stories as to why they did so are looking like a pack of lies. Not good for moving on from the story.[/quote]

Using paul george logic, Goodell aint trippin, but public is trippin equals perpetual trippin.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1082093]NFL Network will be hosting a three hour discussion and seminar on domestic violence this evening. The seminar will be interrupted periodically with updates from a football game being played in Baltimore at the same time.[/quote]



:laughing2


That's some funny shit. Thanks for the laugh Joe.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1082087]I'll keep beating this dead horse, [B]because I'm amazed at the public's stupidity.[/B] [/quote]

You are? You only need to look at our elected officials to show you how stupid the majority of the public really are.

This is fitting since today is 9/11 and goes along with the theme here.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1082087] Yet no one is calling for Newsome to resign or Bisciotti to sell the team.[/quote]


Keith Olbermann actually called for everybody to be fired (including Ozzie) so I'll give him credit for that much.

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[quote=Chico23231;1082104]Using paul george logic, Goodell aint trippin, but public is trippin equals perpetual trippin.[/quote]

Lol.

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People want to say something about Jerry Richardson and the Panthers in regards to Greg Hardy. I don't think you'll see too many owners break down during a speech like Jerry did here. You can tell it bothers him, which is definitely something Goodell (and Bisciotti) are lacking.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11504050/greg-hardy-excused-carolina-panthers-practice-meet-lawyer]Greg Hardy excused from Carolina Panthers practice to meet with lawyer - ESPN[/url]


The Panthers (and the NFL) are right to allow the legal system to play about before coming down on Hardy. There isn't any video in this situation that shows us the facts or events. Due process should be allowed to happen and then punish the person if convicted. It needs to be done because there are a lot of false allegations put on men by women, and there are a lot that are legit. Let the legal system do its thing and then act.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1082101]Well, it's getting out of hand b/c (1) of the visceral response to the tape by everyone; (2) the "WTF" factor - how could this ever have been just a two game suspension; (3) Domestic abuse and violence against women is a hot button topic recently; (4) the appearance of a cover-up.

Frankly, I think, but for No. 4, this would begin to slowly die down. As someone said earlier, if it looks like your covering something up, all you do is heighten scrutiny (rightfully so in my opinion). Goodell & the Ravens screwed the pooch on this one initially and now their stories as to why they did so are looking like a pack of lies. Not good for moving on from the story.[/quote]

I think Watergate taught everyone that the cover up is worse than the crime.