Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=mooby;1164654]As a Tech fan I know he has the college pedigree, but we'll see what kind of adjustment it will be. He has had a lot of success and VT has had a lot of secondary players turn out good in the NFL, so that bodes well.[/quote]

Just like any job in the world, you can't get NFL experience until someone gives you the chance to get some. His pedigree seems great, he's been successful every where, no reason to think he won't be here. I like it. HTTR!

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=Chico23231;1164644]
Gray coached current Redskins cornerback Kendall Fuller, a third-round draft choice last spring, at Virginia Tech. Ten Hokies coached by Gray were drafted in the NFL, including Seattle safety Kam Chancellor, corner Brandon Flowers and former Redskins safety Kyshoen Jarrett. Four of those players were drafted between 2014-16[/quote]

That is pretty stout, also three of the four DBs from FL rated high this year. This is legit.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

I listened to Greg Manusky on Cooley and Kevin (03/16 show [url]http://www.espn980.com/cooley-and-kevin-with-chris-cooley-and-kevin-sheehan-podcasts/[/url] ).
He said some interesting things, 3 caught my attention :

-When asked about what he's expecting from Breeland, he said "he needs to listen", said that listening is the number one quality a player must have "if you don't have it you're garage" ! Man that DB room must have been a REAL mess last year... Sounds like Breeland was a big part of it.

-He said he was a big believer in bringing pressure. That should make some of us happy.

-When discussing playcalling he said he didn't care that much about the call, most importantly he wants players to be on the same page, it drives him crazy hearing a player say "I didn't get the call".


Overall he sounded like somedy trying to sound nice on radio but who wasn't going to be nice at all in the locker room, wasn't willing to accept any kind of the crap that happened last year.
And I LOVE that!

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Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1168464]I listened to Greg Manusky on Cooley and Kevin (03/16 show [url=http://www.espn980.com/cooley-and-kevin-with-chris-cooley-and-kevin-sheehan-podcasts/]Cooley and Kevin with Chris Cooley and Kevin Sheehan Podcasts | ESPN 980[/url] ).
He said some interesting things, 3 caught my attention :

-When asked about what he's expecting from Breeland, he said "he needs to listen", said that listening is the number one quality a player must have "if you don't have it you're garage" ! Man that DB room must have been a REAL mess last year... Sounds like Breeland was a big part of it.

-He said he was a big believer in bringing pressure. That should make some of us happy.

-When discussing playcalling he said he didn't care that much about the call, most importantly he wants players to be on the same page, it drives him crazy hearing a player say "I didn't get the call".


Overall he sounded like somedy trying to sound nice on radio but who wasn't going to be nice at all in the locker room, wasn't willing to accept any kind of the crap that happened last year.
And I LOVE that!

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If you look at Sacks and Turnovers...these were never really he problem. We did a decent job there.

Its getting off the field on 3rd down and run defense. We get blasted when in the nickel against the run. And to me, its alllllll about the call 3rd down which lead to our terrible ratios. We need to make adjustments...communication is key.

Sounds like Perry Fewell really had our secondary in shambles.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1168464]
-When asked about what he's expecting from Breeland, he said "he needs to listen", said that listening is the number one quality a player must have "if you don't have it you're garage" ! Man that DB room must have been a REAL mess last year... Sounds like Breeland was a big part of it.

-When discussing playcalling he said he didn't care that much about the call, most importantly he wants players to be on the same page, it drives him crazy hearing a player say "I didn't get the call".
[/quote]

Yeah, not sure what was happening in locker room, but from bunch of reports it seems like there was clear mutiny / people freelancing / people not on same page. Ultimately that comes down to the coach, but likely involves the type of players you have. Maybe people weren't listening to Joe Barry because the calls were just late to come in / bad calls? Maybe just a few players who were causing it -- wonder if Baker / Jean-Francois were part of the mutiny..?

Hoping it will be better with Manusky. He's an internal candidate, so technically he was part of blame last year, but could be better now that he's in charge.. You can talk tough in the offseason but just need to see results.

Breeland- just needs to play. Get the feeling the talent is there but he's been holding himself back because of lack of focus. Bet he was really offended when Norman started to travel because Bree screwed up with #1 WR - and Breeland never recovered after that..

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I worry Breeland will be Amerson for us. He seems ultra frustrated and it's obvious the talent is there. Just can't see us extending him.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Breeland is a head case..I'm not sure he will ever reach his potential.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=Chico23231;1168465]If you look at Sacks and Turnovers...these were never really he problem. We did a decent job there.

Its getting off the field on 3rd down and run defense. We get blasted when in the nickel against the run. And to me, its alllllll about the call 3rd down which lead to our terrible ratios. We need to make adjustments...communication is key.

Sounds like Perry Fewell really had our secondary in shambles.[/quote]

I've never seen a defensive secondary so confused in my life. It was as if none of the defensive backs knew where their positions were on the field or what the call was.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1168504]I've never seen a defensive secondary so confused in my life. It was as if none of the defensive backs knew where their positions were on the field or what the call was.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Would be fun (and extremely sad) to know how many huge plays we allowed just because of blown assignments.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1168510]Yeah. Would be fun (and extremely sad) to know how many huge plays we allowed just because of blown assignments.

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No doubt! And it wasn't always Breeland. Norman had looked lost at times as well, although he was probably expecting safety help.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=metalskins;1168514]No doubt! And it wasn't always Breeland. Norman had looked lost at times as well, although he was probably expecting safety help.[/quote]

I think Whitner was the worse though... By far, IIRC.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1168523]I think Whitner was the worse though... By far, IIRC.[/quote]

It was actually SAD! to watch....Whitner was effing done.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=Schneed10;1164060]Yeah exactly. It's well documented that we should have found a way to work it out with Schottenheimer. But after that, we made the right moves at the right time.

Every owner in the league would have zipped Spurrier at that point, Gibbs retired on his own accord, every owner in the league would have zipped Zorn at that point given that we had a decent team when Gibbs left and Zorn took it in the wrong direction, and Shanny ran himself out of town.

Since Schottenheimer, Snyder's handling of coaches has been exactly what every other owner would do in the same situation.

Now, Snyder's actions under the Cerrato front office certainly undermined some of those coaches. We can pin that on him for sure. But he has since nicely put that to bed, as well with the McCloughan hire.

It took forever but he's finally behaving like an owner who knows how to set up organizational hierarchy and process.[/quote]

I disagree on the Zorn one. I think Snyder panicked when the fan backlash against Fassel happened and went with plan B. IIRC they had hired Zorn as offensive coordinator (s/n picking coordinators before a head coach? Weak) and my memory is a little vague about what happens next, but after the fan rejection of Fassel and the realization not many head coaches would be ok not having their choice of coordinators they panicked and promoted Zorn.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=mooby;1168534]I disagree on the Zorn one. I think Snyder panicked when the fan backlash against Fassel happened and went with plan B. IIRC they had hired Zorn as offensive coordinator (s/n picking coordinators before a head coach? Weak) and my memory is a little vague about what happens next, but after the fan rejection of Fassel and the realization not many head coaches would be ok not having their choice of coordinators they panicked and promoted Zorn.[/quote]

Zorn should never have been hired in the first place. I would say after the Gibbs 2.0 hire DS has started to act like an adult. Gibbs mentored him is the way I see it. Not all the decisions have been great but most of them have been solid. I am in no way passing judgment on SM being fired. I need to see how the cards lay on the table first. They could have been more professional about it for sure.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=mooby;1168534]I disagree on the Zorn one. I think Snyder panicked when the fan backlash against Fassel happened and went with plan B. IIRC they had hired Zorn as offensive coordinator (s/n picking coordinators before a head coach? Weak) and my memory is a little vague about what happens next, but after the fan rejection of Fassel and the realization not many head coaches would be ok not having their choice of coordinators they panicked and promoted Zorn.[/quote]

I can't remember the big deal with Fassel anyway. Was it that he hadn't been a head coach in the league for awhile and people felt the game had passed him by? Seems like he has always remained close to football in some form or fashion, which is different from the Joe Gibbs hiring. Gibbs had been away from football for like 12 years or so. Yet, he still was able to take the 'skins to two playoff appearance and a playoff win. Just wondering how Fassel would have worked out?