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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1282080]No way NE trades up 4 to take a WR. I could see them trade with Carolina though even that seems unlikely.

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New England isn’t taken a WR...

They are going defense or QB

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1282083]New England isn’t taken a WR...



They are going defense or QB[/QUOTE]Agreed. I do think a trade to Carolina for QB is something Bellichek might do. His FA spending seems to say he is pushing big this year, and Newton isn't the guy. Though i could also see him trade for Garropolo if SF doesn't ask for crazy returns.

Simms' mock is crazy. Another thing I can't see is the Bengals passing on Sewell if Atlanta takes Pitts.

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With Flowers back they will prob focus on LB/QB now

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I think the chance of us picking at 19 is less then 50-50. I could see us jumping up a few spots to grab a guy who falls, or dropping a few spots to get extra picks. 19 holds no special place in the draft day scheme.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1282088]I think the chance of us picking at 19 is less then 50-50. I could see us jumping up a few spots to grab a guy who falls, or dropping a few spots to get extra picks. 19 holds no special place in the draft day scheme.

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The Titans have also said they want to move out of 22 to add more picks

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1282087]With Flowers back they will prob focus on LB/QB now[/QUOTE]I liked Flowers as a guard. That should help solidify the interior of our line.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1282089]The Titans have also said they want to move out of 22 to add more picks[/QUOTE]Hadn't heard that but not surprised. In terms of trading back though 19 is better than 22 if we make it a reasonable value and a team does want a specific DL player as they are the ones most likely to fall and we wouldn't be inclined to take.

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The closer we get the more I think we're looking to take a LB in the 1st.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1282088]I think the chance of us picking at 19 is less then 50-50. I could see us jumping up a few spots to grab a guy who falls, or dropping a few spots to get extra picks. 19 holds no special place in the draft day scheme.

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I agree. I don't know Football Teams draft board but I'd imagine most teams only have 15-20 guys graded out as legitimate first rounders.

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JOK, Darrisaw, or Parsons if available (and if FO okays Parsons). Otherwise, trade down since rounds 2 and 3 are loaded with potential value.

Problem is, can we really find a trade partner who sees a must-have at 19? Maybe someone who needs an edge guy like Paye or Owen? 19 is a real tweener spot this year.

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I like 19 ... our needs are OT, athletic coverage LB or coverage FS.

1 or 2 of Darrisaw/Jensen/Vera Tucker will be there

1 of JOK or Collins will be there

FS Moehrig should be there

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[quote=Defensewins;1281917]I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

[URL="https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131"]https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/psu/2020/11/20/isaiah-humphries-allegations-penn-state-james-franklin/stories/202011200131[/URL]

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters [B][U]would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied[/U][/B], he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing"]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871329-james-franklin-psu-players-named-in-isaiah-humphries-lawsuit-alleging-hazing[/URL][/quote]

What we're talking about here is essentially sexual assault, yikes

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Still don't believe me about Parsons and Penn State culture in totality?

It's no secret up here in PA that PSU main campus is basically Satan's playground. You get it all, rape, racism and your kid had a sold chance of dying there.

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If that shit is true F that guy.. Hard pass

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1282098]I agree. I don't know Football Teams draft board but I'd imagine most teams only have 15-20 guys graded out as legitimate first rounders.[/quote]

I have heard that multiple times recently, that a lot of teams don't have more than 20 or so players with a first round grade. Much less than in years past. That is why I think trading back could be the logical move depending on who is there.