Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]Remember last time brunell played dallas he picked up over 300 yards[/QUOTE]

Yes. Then, over the next five games he averaged 129 yards, a QB rating of 55.82, .8 touchdowns, and completed 45% of his passes per game.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=Drift Reality]I agree with part of this. Ramsey also started demanding a trade after they brought Brunell in, in the first place.

If we drop about three or four though, I have a feeling it might be Campbell and not Ramsey, who we see put in there.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I was thinking. Gibbs is not going to play see-saw like Spurrier did. He's going to start working towards the future which is intelligent for the amount of picks he gave up.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Exactly what I was thinking. Gibbs is not going to play see-saw like Spurrier did. He's going to start working towards the future which is intelligent for the amount of picks he gave up.[/QUOTE]

If he doesn't want to play see-saw, why did he bench Ramsey after 1 quarter? If he's working towards the future, then why is he starting a 36 year old quarterback next Monday?

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Yes. Then, over the next five games he averaged 129 yards, a QB rating of 55.82, .8 touchdowns, and completed 45% of his passes per game.[/QUOTE]

You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If he doesn't want to play see-saw, why did he bench Ramsey after 1 quarter? If he's working towards the future, then why is he starting a 36 year old quarterback next Monday?[/QUOTE]

Maybe because Ramsey threw an INT and one and a half fumbles on his first possession. That will about do it.

No seasoned Coach would put his future prospect in against a rival that has beaten his team like that. Is Ramsey more concerned about starting or about winning? Because these temper tandrems don't help his case when he goes to another team in the near future

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Maybe because Ramsey threw an INT and one and a half fumbles on his first possession. That will about do it.[/QUOTE]

On his first possession? I didn't think it was possible to turn the ball over 2 1/2 times in a single possession.

In any event, I see a see-saw.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.[/QUOTE]

I cannot admit it. What has made you think that it is anyone other than the Brunell from 2004 that is under center? His efficient, but relatively unproductive preseason performances?

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.[/QUOTE]

Until Brunell puts together a string of 3 games where he can move the ball down the feild, I'm going to remain very skeptical. If he plays great on Monday night, thats awsome! But he played great on Monday night last year. I wont be convinced until he consistently moves our offense. 70 yards in 3 quarters yesterday isnt exactly making me do flips.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I cannot admit it. What has made you think that it is anyone other than the Brunell from 2004 that is under center? His efficient, but relatively unproductive preseason performances?[/QUOTE]

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

quoting myself here

[QUOTE=illdefined]even if Brunell lights up Dallas, those first 3 drives of the season was *not* enough to tell me Ramsey couldn't have either. if i've learned anything, its that pre-season dictates very little, and developing a rhythm only happens in game situations with all your weapons and all the time. this is a surprising loss of his cool, and amounts to Gibbs hitting the panic button.[/QUOTE]

and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=illdefined]and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?[/QUOTE]

Easy, Ramsey isn't Gibbs' boy; Brunell unfortunately is.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=illdefined]quoting myself here



and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?[/QUOTE]

Thats all I want to know. I have felt ever since week 2 of last season, that Ramsey was the better QB. I still think that, although Ramsey isnt as good as I thought he was back then. However, I think Gibbs is making a huge mistake turning his back on a guy (which is what he is doing) after 1 quarter. Its not like Brunell went out and threw for 200 yards and 3 tds. He went out and threw for 70 yards and thats it. I think this might cause alot of players in the locker room to really start to question Gibbs.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.[/QUOTE]

it's official. last season just did not happen and Skins fans are just as only-the-last-play short term memory as Philly fans.

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

[QUOTE=SUNRA]The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.[/QUOTE]

Ramsey's Career: 33 TD's, 29 INT's...

Re: Ramsey wants to be traded
 

Gibbs was a lil worried during the preseason and the first drive confirmed his suspicions. And y'all are forgetting Ramsey did get a pretty hard hit.

I don't think Gibbs wants to make last years mistake. As odd as that sounds....he wants to have a stable quarterback.