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[quote=12thMan;998507]Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
LaRon Landry has signed a 4-year deal with the Colts[/quote]

Lol their loss. They signed him up for a contract that is set to pay him for at least 64 games. They'll be lucky if he plays 44 games for them.

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Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell
Lorenzo Alexander on Redskins decreasing offer of guaranteed money: “It wasn’t that they did me dirty. They just ran out of cap space.”

Looks like he is trying to backtrack now.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;998509]Who does Pitt get to replace James Harrison, Casey Hampton, (maybe) Keenan Lewis, Mike Wallace, Max Starks, Mendenhall. Add to that the fact that Polamalu has been getting hurt more, and Heath Miller is coming off a torn ACL (he may be a FA too..?) I just don't see it. I see Cincy winning that division. Hell even Baltimore I can see being better than them with all their losses.[/quote]

The only player on the list of players they lost worth mentioning was Keenan Lewis and Mike Wallace. Wallace was not worth the amount. Hampton and Harrison were old and done... Remember how they were going to struggle after losing Joey Porter? I don't think anyone in Pitt remembers Joey Porter. Starks was getting old and didn't look good this entire year. I am sure they will be fine.

Baltimore has the potential of losing half of their defense and Cincy is in it. I like Cincy. I just think they will always be an almost team.

The only concern for Pitt that I have is if they can keep Big Ben healthy. If he stays healthy they will have a shot at a superbowl. They are just that team that when you forget about them (like the Giants) they end up winning a superbowl or making a playoff run.

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[quote=donofriose;998514]The only player on the list of players they lost worth mentioning was Keenan Lewis and Mike Wallace. Wallace was not worth the amount. Hampton and Harrison were old and done... Remember how they were going to struggle after losing Joey Porter? I don't think anyone in Pitt remembers Joey Porter. Starks was getting old and didn't look good this entire year. I am sure they will be fine.

Baltimore has the potential of losing half of their defense and Cincy is in it. I like Cincy. I just think they will always be an almost team.

The only concern for Pitt that I have is if they can keep Big Ben healthy. If he stays healthy they will have a shot at a superbowl. They are just that team that when you forget about them (like the Giants) they end up winning a superbowl or making a playoff run.[/quote]

The NFLs a funny league and anything can happen. I agree with Atlanta/Green Bay and New England. Houston is a team who is losing key guys, but they'll adjust (has anyone posted that Ed Reed is supposed to meet with Houston tomorrow?), because they draft well. This Indy team is going to be interesting with all these FAs and young draft picks.

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John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
If Ed Reed leaves Texans without a contract, he could be headed to Niners. Woodson could be headed to Texans.

Didn't see anyone post anything on Ed Reed

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Heres another redskin name that was linked to us

@granthpaulsen Source: Free agent cornerback Derek Cox has signed with the Chargers. The #Redskins were rumored to be interested in him.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;998515]The NFLs a funny league and anything can happen. I agree with Atlanta/Green Bay and New England. Houston is a team who is losing key guys, but they'll adjust (has anyone posted that Ed Reed is supposed to meet with Houston tomorrow?), because they draft well. This Indy team is going to be interesting with all these FAs and young draft picks.[/quote]

Anything can happen, that is why I am not going to count out Pitt. Any team with an elite QB has a chance for a superbowl.

Indy lost an important receiver in Avery, and I am not so sure about the coaching situation. They just seemed to be the typical overachiever and feel good story and I don't think they will have a consistent winning team. But we will see. Plus the colts are making a lot of noise right now. A lot of changes sometimes is not always a good thing.

Should be interesting with Houston. Schaub is still there which makes me question them but most people were questioning Flacco all the way to the superbowl.

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[quote=Skinzman;998512]Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell
Lorenzo Alexander on Redskins decreasing offer of guaranteed money: “It wasn’t that they did me dirty. They just ran out of cap space.”

Looks like he is trying to backtrack now.[/quote]


...or maybe his quotes were taken out of context. Reporters are very good at doing that sort of thing.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;998509]Who does Pitt get to replace James Harrison, Casey Hampton, (maybe) Keenan Lewis, Mike Wallace, Max Starks, Mendenhall. Add to that the fact that Polamalu has been getting hurt more, and Heath Miller is coming off a torn ACL (he may be a FA too..?) I just don't see it. I see Cincy winning that division. Hell even Baltimore I can see being better than them with all their losses.[/quote]

Their running game got better with Dwyer and Redmen. Jason Worilds was a beast at VA. Tech and he will step in for Harrison and they won't miss a beat. Steelers always have a drafted guy that's ready to take over for an older vet that's on his way out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;998554]Their running game got better with Dwyer and Redmen. Jason Worilds was a beast at VA. Tech and he will step in for Harrison and they won't miss a beat. Steelers always have a drafted guy that's ready to take over for an older vet that's on his way out.[/quote]

Good teams usually have players who haven't had much playing time, but who the coaches believe will be ready to step into a role. I expect both Pitt and Baltimore to have those guys on their roster, and I think the Skins may finally be getting to that place too. Just because a guy doesn't beat out an all-pro who is established on the roster doesn't mean that he won't be able to become an all-pro in his own right.

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[quote=mooby;998403]If the Giants get a first for Cruz it will be a good deal for them, yes Cruz is a great wideout but when you think of how the Giants took an undrafted free agent and turned him into a Pro Bowler worth a first round pick it speaks to one of the things you are doing right as an organization.


With all that said I would be remiss if I didn't say F Mara and the Giants, stupid a-holes, not only getting rid of 36 million of our cap money, but for turning an undrafted free agent into a player worth a first round pick.[/quote]


That's one way to look at it, the "profit" from flipping Cruz. However, how do they replace his production? Even if they use that 1st-round pick on a WR, that's a position with probably the highest rate of draft busts. Cruz has become one of the most productive WRs in the game and you don't just plug-and-play with that caliber of a player.

They really screwed themselves by paying both Eli and the often-injured and less productive than Cruz WR named Nicks. They can't afford to pay both Nicks AND Cruz #1 WR money and they both demand it.

Cruz is likely leaving NJ.

I believe the teams around the league have been waiting for Wallace, Jennings and Welker's deals to be done before moving onto Cruz who might take a little more money because they'll have to outbid the Giants, but with their cap situation, it can be done.

The Giants can get big value for Cruz...BUT they can't replace him on the field.

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[url=http://tracking.si.com/2013/03/14/colts-sign-landry/?sct=hp_t2_a8&eref=sihp]Report: Colts sign safety LaRon Landry | SI Tracking Blog – Tracking MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NCAA On Twitter[/url]

Interesting.

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Just a little late on that news, bud.

The Colts are making some great moves, especially in the secondary, that's 3 solid DBs signed. Landry is a great player when healthy. I think they'll really regret the 4 years though. I'm glad someone overpaid so we were priced out of the risk. I loved LaRon when he was here but it was just an experiment that failed and it wouldn't be wise to try it again. I don't know if we'll ever see another season like he had last year, playing all 16 games. Interesting how he could never get on the field here, but when he was playing for a contract, suddenly he's healthy.

I'd love to see him on the field for us again but the risk that once paid he'll go back to the old LaRon is just too high. What we need now are safeties who can stay healthy. We already have a similar situation with Meriweather. We've seen what happens when we're playing 2nd and 3rd-string safeties as starters...please, not again.

We need to get some of these CBs in FA...there's a TON of quality CBs available. Then in the draft...hit the safety positions hard.

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I missed the last page; past my bed time. Anywho good luck to the Colts.

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14 million for Landry? Not sure what Indy was thinking on that one. He's a good player but he gets exposed in coverage. But good for him. Glad he's been able to stay healthy and get paid.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9051056/cornerback-derek-cox-agrees-four-year-contract-san-diego-chargers]Cornerback Derek Cox agrees to four-year contract with San Diego Chargers - ESPN[/url]

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Didn't see this posted.

[B]Albert BreerVerified account ‏@AlbertBreer

Cliff Avril has agreed to terms with Seattle, per source.[/B]


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9049770/cliff-avril-agrees-two-year-deal-seattle-seahawks-according-source]Cliff Avril agrees to two-year deal with Seattle Seahawks, according to source - ESPN[/url]



Seahawks are loaded.

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[quote=NC_Skins;998604]Didn't see this posted.

[B]Albert BreerVerified account ‏@AlbertBreer

Cliff Avril has agreed to terms with Seattle, per source.[/B]


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9049770/cliff-avril-agrees-two-year-deal-seattle-seahawks-according-source]Cliff Avril agrees to two-year deal with Seattle Seahawks, according to source - ESPN[/url]



Seahawks are loaded.[/quote]


I think they could be in cap hell in a few years. But as of right now, yes if Harvin can stay healthy.

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The thing is they HAVENT been stupid with money in the past, they have built through the draft.

That team is ready so its time to go for it and take some chances. Good moves by Seattle.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;998603][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9051056/cornerback-derek-cox-agrees-four-year-contract-san-diego-chargers]Cornerback Derek Cox agrees to four-year contract with San Diego Chargers - ESPN[/url][/quote]

4 years / $20 mil. We couldn't compete with that.

The same link shows that SD also picked up our former draft pick Chad Rhino.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;998605]I think they could be in cap hell in a few years. But as of right now, yes if Harvin can stay healthy.[/quote]

I think they have a 2-3 year window before the cap bites them in the ass. They'll have to resign Sherman/Wilson and other players they currently have.

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[quote=Lotus;998610]4 years / $20 mil. We couldn't compete with that.

The same link shows that SD also picked up our former draft pick Chad Rhino.[/quote]

Bleh....unless Winfield comes in dirt cheap I dont see us getting a corner in FA.

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The Jets Week 1 starter at QB...Kevin Kolb?

[URL]https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/statuses/312213560543543297[/URL]



Chiefs release Cassel.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel]Matt Cassel - Unsigned Free Agent - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]




Reminder to NFL teams...STOP drafting USC QBs! Barkley will be a bust too, it's school tradition.

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Vikings getting visits from Greg Jennings and Brian Urlacher. If they could steal those two away from division rivals, that would be impressive. Sure they're old and breaking down, but when on the field, still very good players.

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look at the FA list at nfl.com, there's like 6000 CB/DBs out there.
winfield, cason, talib, smith, arrington, etc etc.

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i wouldn't waste money on urlacher.

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[quote=Monkeydad;998628]The Jets Week 1 starter at QB...Kevin Kolb?

[URL]https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/statuses/312213560543543297[/URL]



Chiefs release Cassel.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel"]Matt Cassel - Unsigned Free Agent - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/URL]




Reminder to NFL teams...STOP drafting USC QBs! Barkley will be a bust too, it's school tradition.[/quote]

Kolb is a china doll.

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Color me the eternal optimist, but I think this cap penalty is going to wind up being a great thing for the Redskins. They're going to have to continue developing guys they already have into starting material. Use what you already have and hopefully develop them into solid starters. Look to the draft to fill out the roster.

It sucks to let certain players go we all feel have the potential at being great players in the league, but the team won - mostly - without Fred Davis, and they can continue to win without him. I'd much rather have him here, but sometimes you have to take your medicine and let go of the things you can't afford.

I believe if the Redskins are able to make it back to the playoffs this year, even more so if they do it by also winning the division again, then it will be even easier for the 'skins to completely let go of the ideology that you have to make the big name signing during free agency to properly fill holes on your roster. The 'skins have done a much better job since Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan has taken over, but I think this is something they needed to face to keep their focus on player development.

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I'm not sure if anyone noticed or if it was discussed earlier but did anyone notice what happened to Cousins yesterday or what he tweeted?
[url=http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201303/bizarre-location-nflers-drug-test]Bizarre Location For NFLer's Drug Test | ThePostGame[/url]

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[quote=skinsguy;998638]Color me the eternal optimist, but I think this cap penalty is going to wind up being a great thing for the Redskins. They're going to have to continue developing guys they already have into starting material. Use what you already have and hopefully develop them into solid starters. Look to the draft to fill out the roster.

It sucks to let certain players go we all feel have the potential at being great players in the league, but the team won - mostly - without Fred Davis, and they can continue to win without him. I'd much rather have him here, but sometimes you have to take your medicine and let go of the things you can't afford.

I believe if the Redskins are able to make it back to the playoffs this year, even more so if they do it by also winning the division again,[B] then it will be even easier for the 'skins to completely let go of the ideology that you have to make the big name signing during free agency to properly fill holes on your roster.[/B] The 'skins have done a much better job since Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan has taken over, but I think this is something they needed to face to keep their focus on player development.[/quote]

I think I said it before but this FA period mandatory detox for any linger Cerratoitis that DS may have

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[quote=skinsguy;998638]Color me the eternal optimist, but I think this cap penalty is going to wind up being a great thing for the Redskins. They're going to have to continue developing guys they already have into starting material. Use what you already have and hopefully develop them into solid starters. Look to the draft to fill out the roster.

It sucks to let certain players go we all feel have the potential at being great players in the league, but the team won - mostly - without Fred Davis, and they can continue to win without him. I'd much rather have him here, but sometimes you have to take your medicine and let go of the things you can't afford.

I believe if the Redskins are able to make it back to the playoffs this year, even more so if they do it by also winning the division again, then it will be even easier for the 'skins to completely let go of the ideology that you have to make the big name signing during free agency to properly fill holes on your roster. The 'skins have done a much better job since Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan has taken over, but I think this is something they needed to face to keep their focus on player development.[/quote]

As long as Snyder owns the team we're going to chase free agents. I don't think it's a bad thing as long as it's managed correctly....adding a piece here and there. But no one has ever won in the NFL loading up on free agents. Philly, Buffalo and Tampa Bay are the latest to learn the hard way. Our defense was/is made up of a lot of free agents and it's a bottom tier unit.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/sean-smith-lands-with-chiefs/]Sean Smith lands with Chiefs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Must be nice to be able to sign a f*cking cornerback. f*ck you Mara and Goodell you f*cking assHoles. this is horsesh*t

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[quote=Chico23231;998652][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/sean-smith-lands-with-chiefs/]Sean Smith lands with Chiefs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Must be nice to be able to sign a f*cking cornerback. f*ck you Mara and Goodell you f*cking assHoles. this is horsesh*t[/quote]

Ooooh, you might have hurt their feelings.

D HALL will be back. It just seems obvious now. We aren't even looking at corners it seems

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[quote=skinsfaninok;998657]D HALL will be back. It just seems obvious now. We aren't even looking at corners it seems[/quote]

Not even in the draft?

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It just doesn't add up..

We lose Polumbus who by all accounts was dreadful last year and we decide to take a flyer on Pashos (who spurned us three years ago) and Trueblood who was even worse in 2011 than Polumbus was in 2012. Not to mention we have a young guy like Crompton who by all accounts is expected to hold down the fort at some point in time.

THEN, you have the CB/S position. We lose Hall and Madieu, who weren't exactly stars, but they played 16 games for us and started. What are the answers? Nothing.

There's just got to be something planned here, because historically we have never gone into a training camp with unproven players and draft picks to fill out a position. Shanny has always brought in veteran competition.

And so we wait..

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Well, I think it's best man win between Compton Pashos and Trueblood, my money is on Compton. CB/S is where the cap hit has hurt us the past two years, and I doubt there is much more planned except to see what shakes out of the tree as draft picks and 1st ballot FA's(guys signed the first week of FA) are signed. So we will either go with youth, or 2nd tier in those areas. It's either a blessing that there is seemingly a lot of quality out there both in FA and the draft, or if we can't get any, a curse because next years group may not have the same overall talent level.

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[quote=IrMitchell;998659]It just doesn't add up..

We lose Polumbus who by all accounts was dreadful last year and we decide to take a flyer on Pashos (who spurned us three years ago) and Trueblood who was even worse in 2011 than Polumbus was in 2012. Not to mention we have a young guy like Crompton who by all accounts is expected to hold down the fort at some point in time.

THEN, you have the CB/S position. We lose Hall and Madieu, who weren't exactly stars, but they played 16 games for us and started. What are the answers? Nothing.

There's just got to be something planned here, because historically we have never gone into a training camp with unproven players and draft picks to fill out a position. Shanny has always brought in veteran competition.

And so we wait..[/quote]


I think much like last year you got wait for all the pieces to drop and that probably won't be until training camp is over. Shockingly probably not ever issue s going to be addressed with the best solution.

The RB position was a concern last year; who here was confident this time last year we have the second leading rusher in the NFL at the end of the season and we get that guy in the 6th round of the draft. Nobody.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;998661]Well, I think it's best man win between Compton Pashos and Trueblood, my money is on Compton. CB/S is where the cap hit has hurt us the past two years, and I doubt there is much more planned except to see what shakes out of the tree as draft picks and 1st ballot FA's(guys signed the first week of FA) are signed. So we will either go with youth, or 2nd tier in those areas. It's either a blessing that there is seemingly a lot of quality out there both in FA and the draft, or if we can't get any, a curse because next years group may not have the same overall talent level.[/quote]
My money is on Pashos. When healthy in 2011, he was the 6th best OT in terms of PBE. Trent was 19th last year.. So yeah high praise for Tony.

Anyways again how does a CB depth chart of, Wilson, Crawford, Murphy suffice? Quarterbacks will have us highlighted in 6 different colors on their schedules. We'll get shredded.

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[quote=mredskins;998662]I think much like last year you got wait for all the pieces to drop and that probably won't be until training camp is over. Shockingly probably not ever issue s going to be addressed with the best solution.

[B]The RB position was a concern last year; who here was confident this time last year we have the second leading rusher in the NFL at the end of the season and we get that guy in the 6th round of the draft. Nobody.[/B][/quote]
Good point, but who really cares about RB? Hell I'm still not even sure if Alfred will finish next year as the starting RB. Such a crapshoot of a position.

CB depth seems to make or break teams much more often.