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[quote=punch it in;1160836]That is exactly what i said. No way im tagging him for all that money next year. No way.[/quote]
So they have to sign him to an extension. If they do not, Washington will be just another team on a long list 'looking' for a franchise QB. And Cousins gets paid elsewhere.

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[quote=Chico23231;1160833]So glad I have off tomorrow so I won't have to deal with some shithead coworkers[/quote]

They'll still be there Tuesday :(:hitfan:

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What a way to start the bloody year. :(

At least Ronda Rousey got knocked out and Obama is out of office.

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8-7-1 is still a good step for us. Back to back over .500.

SM, time to get to work on defense. It doesn't even matter what position you sign a guy or draft a guy, we need help every where.

Cousins, please learn to not be a chucker. CHECK DOWNS ARE OK, CHECK DOWNS ARE OK, CHECK DOWNS ARE OK. THROWING THE BALL AWAY IS OK, THROWING THE BALL AWAY IS OK, THROWING THE BALL AWAY IS OK!!!!

You just chucked away our season. And you're not worth anywhere near 25 million so please don't ask for it.

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He's a good starting qb but proved today that he doesn't deserve elite qb money. Signing him is the only option though.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1160842]So they have to sign him to an extension. If they do not, Washington will be just another team on a long list 'looking' for a franchise QB.[/quote]

Maybe we can sign Romo!!:laughing2

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[quote=SirLK26;1160821]Anyone who puts missing the playoffs on Kirk is a fucking moron. This defense was putrid all year long and cost us game after game. Yes they stepped up today but its too little too late. Kirk is a baller, the best QB this team has had in a LONG time. Without him we maybe win 5 games this year[/quote]

It's not totally on him, but when you pay a guy 19mil/yr (and they want 24mil/yr), you expect that player to come up big in big games. He did not. He blew the Panthers game and blew this game as well. Yardage and shit is nice and all, but it's points that win the games.

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Never said I want us to get rid of Kirk. He is the sole reason we got this far, but if he breaks the team's bank for staying, what good will it do keeping him? The D needs just about a complete overhaul, half the o linemen are really backups, same with most of our Dbs. If Scott really works some magic we can have a solid team in 2 more seasons, and if he can't work that fast, Kirk will be finishing his next contract out before a proper team is built.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1160847]Maybe we can sign Romo!!:laughing2[/quote]
Can't have him.

After watching 'butt fumble' today, I am content paying Romo to be the highest paid backup in NFL history.

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1160844]What a way to start the bloody year. :(

At least Ronda Rousey got knocked out and Obama is out of office.[/quote]

Glad that makes you happy, that comment just made me sad x3.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1160846]He's a good starting qb but proved today that he doesn't deserve elite qb money. Signing him is the only option though.[/quote]


Capt Kirk is going to get elite QB cash. If The Redskins don't pay him then another team, gladly, will.

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[quote=punch it in;1160824]So we keep him if the price is right. Which would be about 17 a year imo. Than we have a stop gap quarterback until we find one mentally strong enough to win. Whatever.
Some other team like the Jags or Browns will offer him 22 and we will say see you later.[/quote]

17 million is not going to get it done at all. That is just ridiculous. The number one off season priority is re-sign Cousins and if you have to pay him 20 million or a little more then so be it. Look at Cleveland? Chicago? Jets? SF? The guy was close to passing for 5,000 yards. He's not good enough to go out there and win the game with no running game. The team has to get better around him.

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4900 yards 29 total tds 12 ints. He had a great year folks.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1160834]Yea...but today was the one that counted. We can also say that the Carolina game would have given us enough wins to get in and he didn't handle that well. The first game or 2 he looked like shit. I don't think it's moronic at all to question if he's a headache that can't win a big game. This is the game that counted for cousins, and he fucking bricked it. Quite literally threw it away. It's fucking moronic to discount that. Stats mean nothing if you can't do your job when it counts.[/quote]

What about the second Dallas game, the first Philly game, the Green Bay game, Minnesota, Chicago, Cleveland, first New York game, Detroit where he led us on a game winning drive before the defense absolutely collapsed with seconds left, or Cincy with another should have been game wining drive except for a missed fg by Hopkins? It's not stats, look at all the games he either won or put us in position to win. This team CAN NOT let Cousins walk

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1160854]17 million is not going to get it done at all. That is just ridiculous. The number one off season priority is re-sign Cousins and if you have to pay him 20 million or a little more then so be it. Look at Cleveland? Chicago? Jets? SF? The guy was close to passing for 5,000 yards. He's not good enough to go out there and win the game with no running game. The team has to get better around him.[/QUOTE]
It's obvious that we need a RB bad.

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[QUOTE=Bishop Hammer;1160853]Capt Kirk is going to get elite QB cash. If The Redskins don't pay him then another team, gladly, will.[/QUOTE]



Isn't that what I said

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160857]It's obvious that we need a RB bad.[/quote]

Not gonna happen, but I would kill for Dalvin Cook.

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1160853]Capt Kirk is going to get elite QB cash. If The Redskins don't pay him then another team, gladly, will.[/quote]

If a team will pay him that money then you let him go. Just because another team will make a mistake doesn't mean you should: See Houston.

You don't pay a 19 million QB 25 million dollars. You don't do that in any business.

He's not a young rookie. This could be the best season he'll have, and it wasn't enough, especially in the big games against Carolina or New York.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1160852]Glad that makes you happy, that comment just made me sad x3.[/QUOTE]
Rousey can't box. I was watching her training and oh my God, no wonder she got annihilated. Everything about her boxing is fucking terrible.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160857]It's obvious that we need a RB bad.[/quote]

Absolutely.
And a shifty guy like Thompson but bigger.
Matt Jones is signed thru 2018.
It would be nice to trade him for something.

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... that's why I said trading him later would be an option because the other team would also gladly assume the existing contract.

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You really couldn't ask for a better performance out of the defense today.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1160848]It's not totally on him, but when you pay a guy 19mil/yr (and they want 24mil/yr), you expect that player to come up big in big games. He did not. He blew the Panthers game and blew this game as well. Yardage and shit is nice and all, but it's points that win the games.[/quote]

19 million is the going rate for a quality starter. That's not even elite money.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1160810]Like I said in another thread: were being greedy. The team is so much better now. Cousins fucked up but he's worth an extension. Someone take out the cowboys and Giants and we'll see everyone for the draft.

I thought 2017 was supposed to be better. 😄[/QUOTE]
I agree. Rough loss and maybe KC isnt the ultimate clutch. He definitely had a bad december. But you pay him and build the defense. But first fire joe barry and hire either Gus or Todd and drive on cupcake.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1160861]Rousey can't box. I was watching her training and oh my God, no wonder she got annihilated. Everything about her boxing is fucking terrible.

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She deserved to lose, no doubt. It was just sad to watch. She is a broken person.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1160860]If a team will pay him that money then you let him go. Just because another team will make a mistake doesn't mean you should: See Houston.

You don't pay a 19 million QB 25 million dollars. You don't do that in any business.

He's not a young rookie. This could be the best season he'll have, and it wasn't enough, especially in the big games against Carolina or New York.[/quote]

Really?
Then who is our quarterback next year?

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Sign Cousins to a long term contract with an eye towards trading him later on unless he develops and earns the money in his contract.

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That's the safest and best bet

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And that makes everybody happy

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160855]4900 yards 29 total tds 12 ints. He had a great year folks.

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Then franchise him and trade him to SF for 2 1st round picks and then some more. We will have over 60 million in cap space if that was to happen and could beef up our D. If his agent wants 20 million or more then I would consider doing what I mentioned at the beginning.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1160869]Sign Cousins to a long term contract with an eye towards trading him later on unless he develops and earns the money in his contract.[/quote]

Hes's already developed.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1160873]Hes's already developed.[/QUOTE]



To elite status

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1160816]If a QB with Cousins stats hit the open market, he would not be an FA for more than 24 hours.



Get used to the fact that Cousins will stay in DC. Now, just go out and build some more talent around him.[/QUOTE]



How many more weapons can he have around him? The D showed up today against a shit offense but they showed up.
We were at home. It was win and your in. And he shit the bed. All over it. He shit all over the bed and the entire bedroom.
So with a defense, and arguably more weapons than any other team in the league he could not get it done.
That cannot be ignored. He is no longer a rookie in terms of age or experience.
Im more pissed off than anyone that he could not get it done. Cannot ignore what we all saw today. He was shaky from the start. Throwing high and behind everyone. His pocket awareness was laughable too.

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... he wants and is going to get paid elite money.

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As a team since the GB win this team has been lifeless. Don't know it is coaching or what but this team just has no fight. Ridiculous considering the talent level of this team especially on Offense.

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well, that wasn't very much fun.

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Happy New Year :laughing2.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1160876]How many more weapons can he have around him? The D showed up today against a shit offense but they showed up.
We were at home. It was win and your in. And he shit the bed. All over it. He shit all over the bed and the entire bedroom.
So with a defense, and arguably more weapons than any other team in the league he could not get it done.
That cannot be ignored. He is no longer a rookie in terms of age or experience.
Im more pissed off than anyone that he could not get it done. Cannot ignore what we all saw today. He was shaky from the start. Throwing high and behind everyone. His pocket awareness was laughable too.[/QUOTE]
No doubt today he played bad, the whole offense did too. Our OL was horrible today.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160855]4900 yards 29 total tds 12 ints. He had a great year folks.

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True, if they have a running game they do not need KC to have a game winning drive. ..... everyone here talks about how great the O line is, yet 3rd down and two was always a passing down. And the red zone offense needed a running game as well.

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They say that one or two plays don't win or lose games. I argue the opposite. One play or two plays late in games or critical situations can absolutely win or lose the the game.