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Maybe he's including Beau Benzschawel, who was claimed off waivers yesterday. He has been mostly a Guard though, and he has only appeared in 3 NFL games in 2 years. They must be thinking John Matsko can get the best out of him. Who knows, maybe...

Chase Roullier, Tyler Larsen, and Keith Ismael are the only true Centers currently on the depth chart.

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KJ Wright would be a solid fit, Kwon Alexander also

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Personally I would only class Roullier as "respectable" as in a veteran starter. The other guys basically haven't played a down outside of ST. Hard to class them as respectable.

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Maybe I missed this posted, but Keim has stated the Skins do have interest in LT Villanueva from the Steelers and could be more interest post draft if he don’t take a tackle high in the draft.

I would be in favor of this move if we don’t come away with one in the draft

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1281350]KJ Wright would be a solid fit, Kwon Alexander also[/QUOTE]Agreed.. I wonder how far Alexander is in his Achilles recovery progress at this time tho. I think it's likely we will wait until after the draft to sign any players that could become starters.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281346]Maybe he's including Beau Benzschawel, who was claimed off waivers yesterday. He has been mostly a Guard though, and he has only appeared in 3 NFL games in 2 years. They must be thinking John Matsko can get the best out of him. Who knows, maybe...

Chase Roullier, Tyler Larsen, and Keith Ismael are the only true Centers currently on the depth chart.[/quote]

I really really hope Beau can help. I doubt it, but I really hope so. I've known him since he was 5 years old or so. His youngest brother is friends with my daughter. It would make me incredibly happy to see him succeed, but I really doubt it. He is beat up bad physically.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1281353]Maybe I missed this posted, but Keim has stated the Skins do have interest in LT Villanueva from the Steelers and could be more interest post draft if he don’t take a tackle high in the draft.

I would be in favour of this move if we don’t come away with one in the draft[/QUOTE]

Maybe add Fisher and Schwartz to that list. Though neither look healthy right now, I'd kick the tyres if we don't get a new LT in the draft.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281353]Maybe I missed this posted, but Keim has stated the Skins do have interest in LT Villanueva from the Steelers and could be more interest post draft if he don’t take a tackle high in the draft.

I would be in favor of this move if we don’t come away with one in the draft[/quote]

Villanueva would be a solid addition, whether they draft a T or not. He's not Trent Williams, but about the same age and damn good. He definitely has a few more years left in him. I might be mistaken, but I don't think he's missed a game due to injury since he's been in the NFL ~2014-15.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1281358]I really really hope Beau can help. I doubt it, but I really hope so. I've known him since he was 5 years old or so. His youngest brother is friends with my daughter. It would make me incredibly happy to see him succeed, but I really doubt it. He is beat up bad physically.[/quote]


That's cool ... and brutally honest.

Obviously, RR and Co see enough to bring him in. Hopefully they can bring the best out of him.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1281363]That's cool ... and brutally honest.

Obviously, RR and Co see enough to bring him in. Hopefully they can bring the best out of him.[/quote]

Yeah, his younger brother had to retire in college due to knee issues. His youngest brother will be a freshman at Wisconsin in the fall and has had some injury problems as well. His dad also played at Wisconsin and had to retire (while in college) due to back issues.

They are just huge people and have all the pain associated with being huge.

Tremendous people though by all accounts, so even if Beau isn't playing he'll be a huge plus in the locker room.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1281365]Yeah, his younger brother had to retire in college due to knee issues. His youngest brother will be a freshman at Wisconsin in the fall and has had some injury problems as well. His dad also played at Wisconsin and had to retire (while in college) due to back issues.

They are just huge people and have all the pain associated with being huge.

[B]Tremendous people though by all accounts, so even if Beau isn't playing he'll be a huge plus in the locker room[/B].[/quote]


This is a big part of RR's transformation of the Skins, and is underrated in it's importance.

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Yeah, but you're not going to have too many dudes hanging around just because they are good people. He's going to have to have something to offer on the field.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1281341]Scalper, when you say 4 respectable C's, do you mean Center or CB? I can only see 3 C's on the WFT roster?[/quote]

Center.

1. Roullier, drafted, 6th round, homegrown.
2. Ismael, drafted, 5th round, on rookie deal.
3. Larsen, acquired Panthers this offseason.
4. Benzschawel, just acquired off waivers.

Highly improbable I typed #4 with spelling correct. :-)

All players are true Cs, some of whom have experience swinging to G.
As I noted, for depth, I strongly favor swinging Ts or Cs to G, rather than vice versa. Easier to ask a T or C to play G than a G to suddenly man the edge or snap the ball. Our FO seems to get this. Interesting to ask about PS eligibility of any of these guys.

Seeing 2 Cs acquired this offseason, you wonder what FO plans for Ismael?

Other random thoughts. Roullier not a worldbeater, but a solid slightly above average starting C, good value for 6th round pick. Every starter can't be a 1st or 2nd round pick.

We drafted Reiter a C 7th round, Browns claimed him off PS, cut him after 2 years, Chiefs signed him and he started 2 SBs for them, winning one.

If only we were as good at identifying talented WRs, TEs, and QBs as Centers, LOL.

It could be something as simple as good players became available and the FO pounced, and they'll let competition sort it out or maybe trade of PS one. Who knows. We gave up no draft resources or big money for #3 and #4 so competition a win for us no matter who sticks, though it should be noted we have no true stud C on our roster.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281369]Yeah, but you're not going to have too many dudes hanging around just because they are good people. He's going to have to have something to offer on the field.[/quote]

Participation trophy?
:-)

I see the point though, better than the all criminal teams of old.

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Sammis looks like a beast.

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As far as I know, Benzschawel has never played a snap at center. He's only played teams as a pro and was a right tackle in college, and obviously a left tackle in high school.

I guess they think he can handle center, but I don't know about that. I've seen pretty much every snap the guy's played in his life and I don't see the feet required for center.

He is strong as an ox. He screams guard to me, but I'm no expert.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1281407]Sammis looks like a beast.

[YT]f1sIdSYbGgc[/YT][/quote]



Dudes an adonis.

For some reason, my diet of beer and nachos isn't getting me to the same place as Sammis.

Of course, I am 51. With burned out knees. And a love affair with my couch. So .... I can't blame the beer and nachos. :laughing-

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Plenty of gym rats come and go, can he play? He's got a lot to learn.

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Villanueva on a cheap 1 year deal would be great. Id feel bad for Lucas as it seems hes always being relegated to "first man off bench" status.

I think you need 8 starter level OL.

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[quote=MTK;1281434]Plenty of gym rats come and go, can he play? He's got a lot to learn.[/quote]

Exactly. Quit his high school team after a week. Maybe he has matured and toughened up since then but not going to be surprised if he’s cut pretty quickly.

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[quote=ArizonaSkinFan;1281455]Exactly. Quit his high school team after a week. Maybe he has matured and toughened up since then but not going to be surprised if he’s cut pretty quickly.[/quote]

It seems like Reyes has good work ethics, based on what this [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/sammis-reyes-img-coach-details-how-washington-tight-end-prepped-nfl"]article[/URL] explained. So far, we have been seeing good things but Reyes still have ways to go as he is entirely new to football.. Also, as we all already know from the past, majority of our off-season and training camp crushes always disappear once season starts.

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Watched an interview with Julie D. He sounds like a guy who will put the work in (physical and studying) and won't let himself fail.

I think he's going to work out. There will be a learning curve but I think he'll get it. Since we have Thomas as the starter and won't rely on him picking it up immediately to be the starter, we can have some more patience with him.

I'm excited to see him on the field.

He's also very humble and grounded. Doesn't care about a house for himself, just wants to take care of his parents and be a role model for Chilean kids who have never had a pro athlete to look up to (in football or basketball).

Check out that interview.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1281458]Watched an interview with Julie D. He sounds like a guy who will put the work in (physical and studying) and won't let himself fail.

I think he's going to work out. There will be a learning curve but I think he'll get it. Since we have Thomas as the starter and won't rely on him picking it up immediately to be the starter, we can have some more patience with him.

I'm excited to see him on the field.

He's also very humble and grounded. Doesn't care about a house for himself, just wants to take care of his parents and be a role model for Chilean kids who have never had a pro athlete to look up to (in football or basketball).

Check out that interview.[/quote]

Yes a really good interview, how can you not cheer for this guy a great story. If he get's sometime I think he could be decent.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1281458]Watched an interview with Julie D. He sounds like a guy who will put the work in (physical and studying) and won't let himself fail.

I think he's going to work out. There will be a learning curve but I think he'll get it. Since we have Thomas as the starter and won't rely on him picking it up immediately to be the starter, we can have some more patience with him.

I'm excited to see him on the field.

He's also very humble and grounded. Doesn't care about a house for himself, just wants to take care of his parents and be a role model for Chilean kids who have never had a pro athlete to look up to (in football or basketball).

Check out that interview.[/quote]


It's just amazing that this kid is so off the charts athletic, that he had multiple NFL teams wanting him, and he has ZERO experience playing the game.

If he can develop the mental toughness that this game requires -- dealing with the drudgery of summertime camps; getting smacked around in the trenches when he is required to block a behemoth in front of him; getting dinged up and playing through the pain -- he could be a huge surprise.

I still can't get over the fact that he is THE most athletic TE ... ever measured.

I hope he works out. It would be an awesome story, and he could be special.

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[quote=GridIron26;1281456]It seems like Reyes has good work ethics, based on what this [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/sammis-reyes-img-coach-details-how-washington-tight-end-prepped-nfl"]article[/URL] explained. So far, we have been seeing good things but Reyes still have ways to go as he is entirely new to football.. Also, as we all already know from the past, majority of our off-season and training camp crushes always disappear once season starts.[/quote]

He definitely knows his way around the gym, but he won't get far if he doesn't have that same work ethic for studying. Would make for an amazing story if he does make it though.

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WFT waives Bryce Love

[url]https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/298886/bryce-love-waived-by-washington-football-team.php[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281584]WFT waives Bryce Love

[url]https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/298886/bryce-love-waived-by-washington-football-team.php[/url][/quote]

Finally

I knew that was a waste when it happened

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Gibson already took over the show so that doesn't matter, although it sucks that we wasted a 4th round pick.

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Eh who cares, it was worth the gamble in the 4th

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[quote=MTK;1281600]Eh who cares, it was worth the gamble in the 4th[/quote]

Not when we had drafted a RB in the 2d already.

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[quote=nonniey;1281604]Not when we had drafted a RB in the 2d already.[/quote]

You don't draft solely based on need, you draft based on who you think has the highest chance of succeeding as a long term quality player in the NFL.

Given the percentages of third day draft picks that actually pan out I don't have a problem with the selection. If his injuries had healed properly he had the talent to succeed.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1281584]WFT waives Bryce Love

[url]https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/298886/bryce-love-waived-by-washington-football-team.php[/url][/quote]



Exhibit A for going pro early. If he had left after his record setting junior year, no telling what his football future would be like.

I feel for the kid. Uber talented, derailed by injury. It totally sucks.

But he was studying to be a doctor. That path is obviously still open for him. Which is not a bad "second life choice" to have available.

Best of luck to the kid.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1281458]Watched an interview with Julie D. He sounds like a guy who will put the work in (physical and studying) and won't let himself fail.

I think he's going to work out. There will be a learning curve but I think he'll get it. Since we have Thomas as the starter and won't rely on him picking it up immediately to be the starter, we can have some more patience with him.

I'm excited to see him on the field.

He's also very humble and grounded. Doesn't care about a house for himself, just wants to take care of his parents and be a role model for Chilean kids who have never had a pro athlete to look up to (in football or basketball).

Check out that interview.[/quote]

No one can foresee if he's going to work out. Let's assume he puts in 1 million percent effort, he doesn't he's toast for sure, but assume. Even then he could bust. LOTS of great athletes give it their all and fail in NFL, it takes way more than just talent. Maybe he can learn the position, maybe he can't. No one knows right now.

In terms of being grounded, have you ever heard anyone give an interview like that and say they want to spend it all on hookers and blow? That they just want to be in the NFL to make some quick easy money, get fame, and laid a lot? Saying all the right things in interview doesn't mean much, only an imbecile doesn't play the PR game. I'm not saying the guy is grounded, I'm not saying he isn't, I'm just saying you don't make that determination based on public interviews in which only the rankest dumbass doesn't give the "right" answers.

The signing is a sensible risk/reward proposition because we have significant reward potential with very minimal risk. I hope the guy can learn the position and sticks as the #3 TE this year. Sometimes blocking is much, much more difficult to learn than catching for TEs, his progression should be interesting.

Cooley's comments on this were great, years ago, Gibbs telling him to block better, he's like, the guy in front of me outweighs me by 40 pounds, is way stronger than me, and he's lightning fast, WTF do you want me to do exactly? I'm not doing comments justice, but it was funny and spot on. Vintage Cooley.

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[quote=GridIron26;1281597]Gibson already took over the show so that doesn't matter, although it sucks that we wasted a 4th round pick.[/quote]

Our current FO seems much less inclined to take injury risks, except really late rounds.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1281612]Exhibit A for going pro early. If he had left after his record setting junior year, no telling what his football future would be like.

I feel for the kid. Uber talented, derailed by injury. It totally sucks.

But he was studying to be a doctor. That path is obviously still open for him. Which is not a bad "second life choice" to have available.

Best of luck to the kid.[/quote]

Not always. For every Bryce, there's some kid who went pro early, got drafted 6th round or is now bagging groceries, and might have been drafted much higher and been set for life on rookie deal. There are obviously cases for higher-end prospects where going pro early makes sense, but lots of cases where it is horrible decision. Injury can ultimately strike anyone. You feel bad for the guy, but not everyone is cut out for the NFL, and was right move for the team. Like you said, best of luck to him.

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[quote=Chico23231;1281353]Maybe I missed this posted, but Keim has stated the Skins do have interest in LT Villanueva from the Steelers and could be more interest post draft if he don’t take a tackle high in the draft.

I would be in favor of this move if we don’t come away with one in the draft[/quote]

Villenueva is visiting with the Ravens. If we want him, we better move quick.

I think he'd be an excellent signing.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1281652]Villenueva is visiting with the Ravens. If we want him, we better move quick.

I think he'd be an excellent signing.[/quote]

Hmm. That could mean Zeus, Jr becomes available

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[quote=Scalper;1281624]Not always. For every Bryce, there's some kid who went pro early, got drafted 6th round or is now bagging groceries, and might have been drafted much higher and been set for life on rookie deal. There are obviously cases for higher-end prospects where going pro early makes sense, but lots of cases where it is horrible decision. Injury can ultimately strike anyone. You feel bad for the guy, but not everyone is cut out for the NFL, and was right move for the team. Like you said, best of luck to him.[/quote]


Oh yeah, totally agree ... but in his case, he would have been drafted higher than where we took him (prolly second round at worst). And who knows if he ever gets injured.

His "problem" was his pursuit of his education, and dream of med school. You don't go pro early when that is also important to you.

He's gonna be just fine.

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KJ Wright ... he wanted a 2 yr deal w the Boys and they wanted 1 yr .. they couldnt agree, cant find anything on money.

If we could get him for 2 yrs/14/7 guar .. I think he could be the rug to tie the whole thing together. A leader, decent at coverage and LOS, winner .. hopefully he doesnt turn into a DJ Swearinger where it just to much vocal