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Talk about the boogie man. You have convinced yourself (or others have convinced you) that there is a whole boogie man network. What is next Chico? The baby eating? Come back from wherever Q has taken you man. It isn’t a healthy place.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285370]
These DA offices campaigns are financed by Democrats.[/quote]

Prove it or STFU!

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[quote=punch it in;1285372]Talk about the boogie man. You have convinced yourself (or others have convinced you) that there is a whole boogie man network. What is next Chico? The baby eating? Come back from wherever Q has taken you man. It isn’t a healthy place.[/quote]

You're being nice . he is a lost trump soul.

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This all coming from a guy who’s messiah treated the AG like he was his own personal lawyer, but it’s the dems who are actually financing all the DA’s to do their evil bidding and send monsters to take their neighborhoods and create chaos in their suburban utopias. How the hell do you have a conversation with that? Lol. You are one keyboard stroke away from claiming Hillary eats babies man. Just do it Chico. Stop testing the waters and be a good Q soldier and take The nonsense to the next level. Putin wants it. He loooooves the discord. Trump wants it too. Do it Chico. Tell us about the blood sucking baby eating dems!

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Chico is just doing what every loyal Trumper is doing. Trying to make the DA’s look corrupt before they lay the hammer down on his messiah. So damn predictable. Live your own life man, don’t dedicate your time and brain cells to some man you dont even know. It is sad.

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[quote=punch it in;1285375]This all coming from a guy who’s messiah treated the AG like he was his own personal lawyer, but it’s the dems who are actually financing all the DA’s to do their evil bidding and send monsters to take their neighborhoods and create chaos in their suburban utopias. How the hell do you have a conversation with that? Lol. You are one keyboard stroke away from claiming Hillary eats babies man. Just do it Chico. Stop testing the waters and be a good Q soldier and take The nonsense to the next level. Putin wants it. He loooooves the discord. Trump wants it too. Do it Chico. Tell us about the blood sucking baby eating dems![/quote]

chico sitting at his keyboard.


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CRT revisited.

From the WSJ (Which by the way is one of the very few media outlets that have maintained a good reputation - being attacked regularly by both the Trump and woke mobs helps with that).

"...............The ideology has sparked an immense backlash. As Americans have sought to understand critical race theory, they have discovered that it has divided Americans into racial categories of “oppressor” and “oppressed” and promotes radical concepts such as “spirit murder” (what public schools supposedly do to black children) and “abolishing whiteness” (a purported precondition for social justice). In the classroom, critical race theory-inspired lessons have often devolved into race-based struggle sessions, with public schools forcing children to rank themselves according to a racial hierarchy, subjecting white teachers to “antiracist therapy,” and encouraging parents to become “white traitors.”

Alarmed state legislators have pushed back. In recent months, lawmakers in 24 states have introduced, and six have enacted, legislation banning public schools from promoting critical race theory’s core concepts, including race essentialism, collective guilt and racial superiority. Parent groups around the country have mobilized to oppose critical race theory in the classroom, arguing that it cultivates shame in white students and fatalism in minority students. According to a recent YouGov survey, of the 64% of Americans who have heard about critical race theory, 58% view it unfavorably, including 72% of political independents.

That’s a major liability for the political left. Sensing that they are losing control of the narrative on race, left-leaning media outlets have launched a furious counterattack. Liberal pundits at the [B][B]New York Times[/B][/B] , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false........."

[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/battle-over-critical-race-theory-11624810791?mod=opinion_lead_pos5[/url]

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Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/opinion/critical-race-theory.html"]The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate[/URL]

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right wing is pumping the "critical race theory" up as much as they did "defund the police" ... its all just scare tactics to keep their white country base convinced they and their god loving country is being replaced.

And it is ... white bible hugging conservatives are already the minority and but for gerrymandering and the way senators are allocated, they already be the powerless minority.

Give it 20-30 years and the bible hugging, abortion obsessed demographic will go from minority to the powerless voiceless minority.

Its why they clinge to Trump so hard .. their last great white hope.

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[quote=MTK;1285389]Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/opinion/critical-race-theory.html"]The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate[/URL][/quote]

Did you miss this part? - bolded below.

....[B]New York Times[/B] , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and [B]portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false[/B]........."

No one is proposing history being ignored or banned (Heck other than all history being ignored which seems to be the default in K-12 the last 30 years which laid the ground work that enabled CRT proponents to push their execrable revision).

So New York Times versus Wall Street Journal - One paper has maintained a good reputation one hasn't - who you going to believe at this point?

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[quote=MTK;1285389]Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/opinion/critical-race-theory.html"]The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate[/URL][/quote]

Talking about the history of the country isn’t the issue..in fact in the new Florida law-slavery, civil rights,etc is required to be taugh (thanks President DeSantis) . it’s the Marxist frame indoctrination in a false premise ala the 1619 lie. I don’t have a problem if you want to take a class in that garbage in college…but it shouldn’t be forced upon kids, it’s a divider.

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[quote=punch it in;1285371]Dude you are literally a walking talking Q billboard.
The Dems are sending bad people to take your neighborhoods? My God. There is little conversation left at all with you because you are brainwashed. Im not even trying to be a dick but you regurgitate alot of nonsense. Think about what you are saying or getting at? The Dems are paying the DA’s to send hardened criminals into your rural paradise and it is your job to take America back. LOL. Putins troll farms must be financing you at this point.[/quote]

No, everything I said was right and based in fact….you might even just say Chico is based.

We see the crime and murder rates…we see the previous policy strategies and so called reforms.

And we know who is responsible…the dots are easy to connect.

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[quote=nonniey;1285392]Did you miss this part? - bolded below.

....[B]New York Times[/B] , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and [B]portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false[/B]........."

No one is proposing history being ignored or banned (Heck other than all history being ignored which seems to be the default in K-12 the last 30 years which laid the ground work that enabled CRT proponents to push their execrable revision).

So New York Times versus Wall Street Journal - One has paper has maintained a good reputation one hasn't - who you going to believe at this point?[/quote]

A big problem imo is that people take opinion pieces and editorial people like Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon as news and facts instead of one persons opinion.

I cant view this NY Times or the WSJ opinion piece as its behind a pay wall but its clearly marked OPINION which should be read with a grain of salt

Christopher Rufo, the writer of the WSJ opinion piece is a right wing activist who worked for Heritage Foundation, does the Carlson/Ingraham talking circuit etc ... seems to be trying to anchor himself into the money making right wing echo chamber talking circuit and has targeted critical race theory as his drum to beat.

Christopher Rufo opinion piece does not equal WSJ credibility or integrity

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[quote=SunnySide;1285401]A big problem imo is that people take opinion pieces and editorial people like Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon as news and facts instead of one persons opinion.

I cant view this NY Times or the WSJ opinion piece as its behind a pay wall but its clearly marked OPINION which should be read with a grain of salt

Christopher Rufo, the writer of the WSJ opinion piece is a right wing activist who worked for Heritage Foundation, does the Carlson/Ingraham talking circuit etc ... seems to be trying to anchor himself into the money making right wing echo chamber talking circuit and has targeted critical race theory as his drum to beat.

Christopher Rufo opinion piece does not equal WSJ credibility or integrity[/quote]

Even opinion pages are subject to a reputational standing. Do the papers editorial writers or guests have a history of playing fast and loose with facts, or omissions of facts, do they they do it a lot or a little? etc. The New York Times reputation, not only in their news reporting but their editorial opinion pieces, has taken quite a hit over the last 5-10 years, while the WSJ has maintained a good reputation. Rufo is a regular WSJ contributor subject to their requirements. Does it matter that he is a conservative when he is required to adhere to WSJ standards?

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I didn't realize the WSJ article was by Rufo. That cracks me up. He's the one that essentially lit the fire under this CRT BS.

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This is straight from his Twitter page, yikes, cringe AF

[QUOTE]@realchrisrufo
We have successfully frozen their brand—"critical race theory"—into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category.

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.[/QUOTE]

Keep the masses angry and divided. The GOP playbook. "Lock her up", "Build the wall", "Drain the swamp", "Repeal and replace", and now it's CRT.

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[quote=nonniey;1285402]Even opinion pages are subject to a reputational standing. Do the papers editorial writers or guests have a history of playing fast and loose with facts, or omissions of facts, do they they do it a lot or a little? etc. The New York Times reputation, not only in their news reporting but their editorial opinion pieces, has taken quite a hit over the last 5-10 years, while the WSJ has maintained a good reputation. Rufo is a regular WSJ contributor subject to their requirements. Does it matter that he is a conservative when he is required to adhere to WSJ standards?[/quote]

Isnt the WSJ owned by Robert Murdoch?

regular news is slanted enough ... im good with categorizing "opinion pieces" as opinion pieces and not treating them like a neutral news source.

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[quote=MTK;1285403]I didn't realize the WSJ article was by Rufo. That cracks me up. He's the one that essentially lit the fire under this CRT BS.[/quote]

Yup a scholar who has studied it, exposing the ugliness and dishonest rhetoric like school administrators saying “white babies are born racist”

He’s accepted all invitations to talk about the issue….and does so like a normal human being while getting yelled out by clowns such as joy Reid.

He’s not a political operative.

If you want to understand the issue -many do not - i suggest reading what he has to say and what he has actually found. You then can understand why school officials will lie about what they are trying to do.

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lol what a joke

The GOP is clearly setting this up as a rallying cry for 2022. I mean it's so obvious.

Oh and he wants your money too of course

@realchrisrufo
P.S. I am fighting against critical race theory through investigative reporting, policy advocacy, and legal warfare. If you want to support this work, you can make a $5 or $10 monthly contribution here:

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[quote=Chico23231;1285406]Yup a scholar who has studied it, exposing the ugliness and dishonest rhetoric like school administrators saying “white babies are born racist”

He’s accepted all invitations to talk about the issue….and does so like a normal human being while getting yelled out by clowns such as joy Reid.

He’s not a political operative.

[B]If you want to understand the issue -many do not [/B]- i suggest reading what he has to say and what he has actually found. You then can understand why school officials will lie about what they are trying to do.[/quote]

All ive heard and read are republican governors doing pres conferences about how they are going to ban and forbid CRT to be taught in public schools ... and this gets repeated in the right wing echo chamber ...

funny thing is ... does any public school have a CRT course? It seems like its a theology, a thought to be discussed in some college Sociology class.

Listening to republicans and right wing echo chamber .. Id swear my 9 year is being told "white people bad" at her public school. Now Im sure we can find some granola too woke private charter school doing some dumb over the top racial sensitivity exercise ...

but I highly doubt Florida and Texas public schools are forcing 13 year olds to take "Critical Race Theory" before math and after social studies.

its just weird.

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Let's be honest if George Floyd never happened would we even know the term CRT right now? Of course not. CRT is the right's way of hijacking the conversation in their favor. It's so painfully obvious.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1285410]Let's be honest if George Floyd never happened would we even know the term CRT right now? Of course not. CRT is the right's way of hijacking the conversation in their favor. It's so painfully obvious.[/QUOTE]


Its deflection. Or in simple terms “i know you are but what am i”. Lets turn CRT which is meant to cure racism into the racism by putting our own spin on it.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285406]Yup a scholar who has studied it, exposing the ugliness and dishonest rhetoric like school administrators saying “white babies are born racist”

He’s accepted all invitations to talk about the issue….and does so like a normal human being while getting yelled out by clowns such as joy Reid.

He’s not a political operative.

If you want to understand the issue -many do not - i suggest reading what he has to say and what he has actually found. You then can understand why school officials will lie about what they are trying to do.[/QUOTE]


The brainwashed drunk uncle,…..

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285394]No, everything I said was right and based in fact….you might even just say Chico is based.

We see the crime and murder rates…we see the previous policy strategies and so called reforms.

And we know who is responsible…the dots are easy to connect.[/QUOTE]


You see whatever Q, Putin, Trump, and the far right want you to see Chico. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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Complete and utter shit show in New York tonight. No surprise…

Eric Adams with a Trump like statement, I’m sure that’s fine now. Hope he wins actually

But I’m 100% sure we won’t see Dems and media making a fuss over it tomorrow. Shouldn’t be any complaints

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This thread was great today. Good work everyone!

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I really don’t understand the knock against CRT. What is the problem with acknowledging and learning how social and legal constructs have played a role in racism? 3/5ths, Jim Crown, Brown v Board, red lining, predatory lending did these things not occur?

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[quote=Chico23231;1285419]Complete and utter shit show in New York tonight. No surprise…

Eric Adams with a Trump like statement, I’m sure that’s fine now. Hope he wins actually

But I’m 100% sure we won’t see Dems and media making a fuss over it tomorrow. Shouldn’t be any complaints[/quote]

Your going to have to give me more context than this. Other than the election I don’t know what happened last night

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1285427]Your going to have to give me more context than this. Other than the election I don’t know what happened last night[/QUOTE]


Trump started chirping about it to give some sort of loose legitimacy to his election loss, so now all of his sheep are up in arms about it. Literally nothing to see here.
If trump had been chirping about how corrupt line judges are in tennis, that is what Chico would have posted about next. That is what cults do after all.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1285426]I really don’t understand the knock against CRT. What is the problem with acknowledging and learning how social and legal constructs have played a role in racism? 3/5ths, Jim Crown, Brown v Board, red lining, predatory lending did these things not occur?[/QUOTE]


You have to completely take it apart and put it back together again into something it was not and will never be to understand it apparently. Lol. Like Matty said it is the new “drain the swamp”.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285427]Your going to have to give me more context than this. Other than the election I don’t know what happened last night[/quote]

[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-city-release-latest-vote-totals-mayoral-contest-2021-06-29/[/url]

Confusion grips New York City mayoral Democratic primary after vote 'discrepancy'

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285426]I really don’t understand the knock against CRT. What is the problem with acknowledging and learning how social and legal constructs have played a role in racism? 3/5ths, Jim Crown, Brown v Board, red lining, predatory lending did these things not occur?[/quote]

Yeah nobody is saying kids shouldn’t learn this or the progress we have made to make this country the least racist place on earth. History is important as well as context.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285433]Yeah nobody is saying kids shouldn’t learn this or the progress we have made to make this country the least racist place on earth. History is important as well as context.[/QUOTE]


Are you saying this country is the least racist place on earth , or we are trying to get there?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285426]I really don’t understand the knock against CRT. What is the problem with acknowledging and learning how social and legal constructs have played a role in racism? 3/5ths, Jim Crown, Brown v Board, red lining, predatory lending did these things not occur?[/quote]

I dont know a lot about CRT and have been actively resisting the urge to read up on it bc I do think republicans are making this seem like some huge real threat .. when its just a college theory that isnt being taught in public schools

I want my kid to know about slavery and the Civil Rights Movement.

I dont want my public schools, even at HS level, teaching sociologist theories. I think CRT would be very interesting to have learned in college. I do believe in systemic and institutional racism. but save the theology for college level discussion imo.

That General who answered Gaetz question .. he had a really good answer. He said Americans attacked the US Capitol on January 6, he wants to understand where that white rage is coming from .. bc its a significant percentage of Americans that feel that way .. and he thinks its important for Americans to try and understand why and where its coming from.

He sd there is nothing wrong reading a Marx or Lenin book to try and understand them .. reading the book doesnt magically make you a communist. Knowledge is knowledge.

If a percentage of americans are so pissed off that they stormed the US capitol building, which has never been done in modern era, ... he has an obligation and duty to try and find out why.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285433].......... the progress we have made to make this country the least racist place on earth.[/quote]

Have you seen a trump pep club cult meeting???

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So Biden is going to the building that collapsed tomorrow…. I wonder if he will throw paper towels at them like Captain Dipshit?

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[quote=punch it in;1285448]So Biden is going to the building that collapsed tomorrow…. I wonder if he will throw paper towels at them like Captain Dipshit?[/quote]

or threaten to with hold any federal emergency funds bc "Florida has been so unfair to him"

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[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-organization-expected-be-charged-tax-related-crimes-thursday-n1272711"]Trump Organization expected to be charged with tax-related crimes on Thursday[/URL]

:laughing2

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It's a MSM witch hunt from chico in 3,2,1.................

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[quote=punch it in;1285448]So Biden is going to the building that collapsed tomorrow…. I wonder if he will throw paper towels at them like Captain Dipshit?[/quote]

Any reason he excluded Idaho and Montana from the wildfire summit today? Guess Biden only cares about blue state voters. Weird I was told different