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pg86 09-27-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;597373]Zorn can stay for all I care.

I more care about the front office being vastly altered than the coaching position.

Zorn is a first time head coach in his second year. Really...what realistic expectations were there with him to begin with. He didn't fill out the coaching ranks himself and he's never even been a OC before.





It's not so surprising that he failed. It is surprising that the biggest wallet in the NFL can't yield the personnel to beat the lions...FIRE THE FRONT OFFICE.[/quote]
Damn I love your post

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 05:55 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597373][B]Zorn can stay for all I care.[/B]

I more care about the front office being vastly altered than the coaching position.

Zorn is a first time head coach in his second year. Really...what realistic expectations were there with him to begin with. He didn't fill out the coaching ranks himself and he's never even been a OC before.

It's not so surprising that he failed. It is surprising that the biggest wallet in the NFL can't yield the personnel to beat the lions...FIRE THE FRONT OFFICE.[/quote]

Dude, you're an idiot.

Chevy13 09-27-2009 05:56 PM

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I'm not 100% sure that firing Zorn would be throwing in the towel on the season. It's not like keeping him will save this team, he is a big part of the problem so getting rid of him might not necessarily mean throwing in the towel. The problem would be who is to take his place? IMO after what I saw today I'd prefer to take the chance of letting him go

dmvskinzfan08 09-27-2009 05:59 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597375]What about Clinton Portis? I mean this dude is getting paid all this money, is always banged up, never practices, and does little in the preseason...he's a non-factor this season. Shit, at least the o-line is good enough to get Campbell to throw over 300 yds.[/quote]

I think your o-line should be able to pass block and open some holes for your RBs. When they did open holes he made plays. I got an idea for you. Get up and run into the wall. Then after you get over your concussion. Get up and open a door and run through it and see which one is easier.

Have you ever taken into consideration that since CP has been here we have run him into the ground. He has been the only constant on our team in the past 5 years that produces. Then you wonder why he is banged up. :doh:

pg86 09-27-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=Ruhskins;597389]Dude, you're an idiot.[/quote]


See this is why the skins need to start winning we get to name callin

53Fan 09-27-2009 06:00 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=skinsfan69;597379]The offense hasn't been good since the 2nd half of last year and this whole year. It's about scoring points not yardage. We can't score points. Scoring 9 and 14 points is simply inexcusable and unacceptable against Det. and STL.

[B]If you watched the game today closely, which I assume you did you would've saw guys LOSING their one on one battles on defense. And you would've saw some missed tackles. I'm not sure how you blame that on coaching[/B].[/quote]

The same way you blame dropped passes, fumbles, penalties and the offense being unable to run for 1 yard for a TD on Zorn.

skinsfan69 09-27-2009 06:01 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;597366]So you think a defensive coach would have helped with an offense that has trouble scoring? Please.[/quote]

Read what I worte. We should've kept Al S.

Redskin Warrior 09-27-2009 06:01 PM

Re: Now What??
 
It going to be interesting because of Zorn is not fired fans will start boycotting in some form or fashion.

Beemnseven 09-27-2009 06:04 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=Miller101;597384]Dude! We only ran it four times in the first half. Just four freaking times!!! I've never seen that shit before in my life! Even Spurrier would call more running plays then that![/quote]

And if we had gotten yards, we would have attempted more runs.

SUNRA 09-27-2009 06:04 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=skinsfan69;597093]Just cause we spend money doesn't mean we have players. Fire the guy that's picking the players.[/quote]

I don't believe its the players.Two 6'4 receivers and no balls thrown to either of them in the redzone and still no deep passes. What happened to the 2 tight end sets we were suppose to see? Zorn is in over his head. He would never admit it.

SFREDSKIN 09-27-2009 06:05 PM

Re: Now What??
 
By the way, our highly paid defense allowed Detroit 381 yards of offense with a rookie QB.

pg86 09-27-2009 06:07 PM

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Guys the players arent the problem. This is the staff!

GTripp0012 09-27-2009 06:10 PM

Re: Now What??
 
Well, if the problem is that Zorn is in over his head, is there anything to be said for waiting for him to get caught up?

If he just doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. It's not the playcalling, in my opinion, if he just doesn't manage people well there's no reason to try to push through. But if he does all the small things well, maybe we just have to wait him out for everything to click?

I think the organization needs to decide if Jim Zorn just has too many hats, or if he just doesn't have coaching ability. Right now, I'd suggest it's the latter, but you don't just fire someone because you are mad that you were upset. You actually have to diagnose the issue before you take action.

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 06:10 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=dmvskinzfan08;597396]I think your o-line should be able to pass block and open some holes for your RBs. When they did open holes he made plays. I got an idea for you. Get up and run into the wall. Then after you get over your concussion. Get up and open a door and run through it and see which one is easier.

[B]Have you ever taken into consideration that since CP has been here we have run him into the ground. He has been the only constant on our team in the past 5 years that produces. Then you wonder why he is banged up.[/B] :doh:[/quote]

Oh come on, no need to edit your post, this wasn't necessary.

On a serious note, our o-line is banged up, and well great people can bitch about how we haven't drafted lineman and yada yada. Yes they need to do that...it's just that CP has disappeared in the last three games and he is a non-factor. Maybe the team needs to look for another option if they blow up the team this year.

Ruhskins 09-27-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Now What??
 
[quote=pg86;597417]Guys the players arent the problem. This is the staff![/quote]

Oh no, it's all Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder. Zorn, Blache, and the players are off the hook as long as these guys are in charge apparently.


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