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[quote=skinsfan69;787646]I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.[/quote]


I don't think anyone or the FO is suggesting that Atogwe is a long term solution.

We need a stop-gap solution and the best FS out there is Atogwe. Sanders is too injury prone. Finding a gem in the rough is not going to happen; Moore, Horton and Doughty did not provide enough to resolve our dilemma at FS or SS.

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I like it. But I still think we should go back to a 4-3. How do we go from top ten to almost last in a matter of one year with the same personel? And he definatley cant wear #21. Are we retiring that #?

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[quote=R.I.P. S.T. 21;787741]I like it. But I still think we should go back to a 4-3. How do we go from top ten to almost last in a matter of one year with the same personel? And he definatley cant wear #21. Are we retiring that #?[/quote]

I don't think they should go back to the 4-3. Just give it time. They need the right personel.

He won't have #21. The redskins don't officially retire numbers but they do unofficially.

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[quote=juskins;787723][B]Can't understand why some are saying we should have done this last year.[/B] The Rams clearly overpaid for Atogwe and the proof is in the pudding, don't you think?

I think we did the right thing by not getting involved in a balloon bidding contract. Remember, we were trying to maintain a collective frugality campaign unlike the previous tag team of Snyder and Vinnie.

Atogwe is here and he comes with a reasonable contract. I don't think he will play out the 5 year contract but who cares, we have a respectable FS.[/quote]

How can you not understand? FS was a need [B]last year [/B]. OJ was on the market [B]last year[/B]. Most fans, including myself weren't sold on Moore as a Starting FS. Obviously this is a mute point, but OJ was on the market 3 days last June before the Rams re-signed him. And had we signed him last offseason don't you think he would've been an upgrade over Moore? That's the point some of us are making.

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Thats what I didnt understand about the change. If you dont have the personel then why not make the change gradually as you get it. If albet haynseworthless didnt have that huge contract and a poopy attitude we could trade him for some quality 3-4 type guys.

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[url]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Why-Atogwe-is-an-immediate-upgrade-for-Skins.html[/url]

If this is a repost, then I apologize in advance.

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[quote=vallin21;787753]How can you not understand? FS was a need [B]last year [/B]. OJ was on the market [B]last year[/B]. Most fans, including myself weren't sold on Moore as a Starting FS. Obviously this is a mute point, but OJ was on the market 3 days last June before the Rams re-signed him. And had we signed him last offseason don't you think he would've been an upgrade over Moore? That's the point some of us are making.[/quote]


The coaching staff did not share your view. We would have probably spent too much for him at the time. Moore was given the opportunity to be the starter but he didn't work out, due to a lack of ability or injuries. Of course, you knew that.

But the professional football minds were trying to give the "diamond in-the-rough (Moore) a chance to shine.

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[quote=juskins;787759]The coaching staff did not share your view. We would have probably spent too much for him at the time. Moore was given the opportunity to be the starter but he didn't work out, due to a lack of ability or injuries. Of course, you knew that.

But the professional football minds were trying to give the "diamond in-the-rough (Moore) a chance to shine.[/quote]

Just glad there's no More of Moore (no pun intended)

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[quote=vallin21;787761]Just glad there's no More of Moore (no pun intended)[/quote]


In a perfect world, you were right thinking that we should have gotten him earlier. One year later has not deterred his play-making abilities and his studentship of the game.

A name from the past comes to mind: Kenny Huston.

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Like this signing alot. Takes a need off the board... hope this doesn't mean the end for Los though. With OJ & Landry holding down the safties, Barnes is gonna be concentrating on CB and possibly eliminate the need for Los. I think Los is pretty underrated... if he caught half the balls he touched he would be considered a top 10 calibur corner IMO. i don't know where we'd find a corner to come in and play better than him.

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[quote=Kindoy;787820]Like this signing alot. Takes a need off the board... hope this doesn't mean the end for Los though. With OJ & Landry holding down the safties, Barnes is gonna be concentrating on CB and possibly eliminate the need for Los. I think Los is pretty underrated... if he caught half the balls he touched he would be considered a top 10 calibur corner IMO. i don't know where we'd find a corner to come in and play better than him.[/quote]

I think it may be a precautionary step toward preparing for Los' departure. I would guess then that Buchanan stays. But I have no idea. Maybe one day their prince will come.

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Los is taking a big chance IMO by not re-signing sooner rather than waiting for the CBA deal to play out. I know it only takes one suitor, but I would guess that if there's a work stoppage, once it's over FA salaries will not be as high, and the no. of FAs out there would flood the market too.

Don't know what the Skins have offered & maybe they really are trying to sign him to a bargain deal for them. If what they're offerring is even avg., I think I would take the bird in hand if I were him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;787821]I think it may be a precautionary step toward preparing for Los' departure. I would guess then that Buchanan stays. But I have no idea. Maybe one day their prince will come.[/quote]

Prince not gonna be there at 10, Id be disappointed if we spend another top ten draft pick on the secondary.

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[quote=Chico23231;787827]Prince not gonna be there at 10, Id be disappointed if we spend another top ten draft pick on the secondary.[/quote]

It wouldn't be my top choice, and like I've said in the past I doubt Dallas passes on him if he's there at 9.

I was just throwing it out there

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[U][B]Poll results -[/B][/U]
Like the signing = 93
Don't like = Kareem Moore and Reed Doughty