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[quote=CultBrennan59;935030][B]I'm not worried about Fred Davis and Trent Williams getting suspended for the year. I think they learned their lesson. [/B]Especially when Freds in a contract year, he knows that he messes up and he's going nowhere to get a good contract. '[/quote]

I'm worried about them getting suspended.

Based on their own comments on the matter, it seems that neither of them has made any drastic lifestyle changes. If they haven't, that's a problem. They're both just one weak moment at a party or giving in just once to a pushy friend away from a one year suspension.

Also, aren't they required by the NFL to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages, as well? That's not easy to do at a party or a nightclub.

If those two get suspended again (especially TW), it could cost the Skins a couple of games and cost MS his job.

The last thing I want to see is for DS to fire MS and change the HC and the system once again. I think that would really set us back.

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I was watching Mike Shanahan speak about Cooley this morning (it was from last evening's Redskins Nation) and it really sounded like Cooley refused to be a backup and asked to be released. They never discussed his contract from other reports.

It doesn't harm my view of Cooley as a true Redskin, it just shows how competitive he is and how hard it is for players to accept the end of their career.

[U]It basically went like this:[/U]

Cooley: "Coach, I want to be a starter."

Shanahan (verbatim): "Chris, Fred is going to be our starter."

Cooley: "I want to start [I]somewhere[/I] in the NFL."

Shanahan: "Then we're try to help you with that."

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;935088]I am.

Based on their own comments on the matter, it seems that neither of them has made any drastic lifestyle changes. If they haven't, that's a problem. They're both just one weak moment at a party or giving in just once to a pushy friend away from a one year suspension.

Also, aren't they required by the NFL to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages, as well? That's not easy to do at a party or a nightclub.

If those two get suspended again (especially TW), it could cost the Skins a couple of games and cost MS his job.

The last thing I want to see is for DS to lose patience with MS and change the HC and the system once again.[/quote]

I'm not worried about Trent. I've seen him speak about it and really seems mature now and realizes he screwed up.

Fred, he worries me some. He seemed to be more of a partier anyway.

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[quote=Defensewins;935024]Imagine how much worse you would feel if we actually won something with CP and Cooley, as we did with Art Monk and Darrell Green. Monk and Green were also great Redskins and good good people like Cooley. Add winning multiple Championships and the loss of them hurts even more.[/quote]


So now you know how the Colts fans must feel with Manning being released. Having one of the best QBs in NFL history for over a decade to having him released within a days time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;935012]Cooley was loved by many[/quote]

I see what you did there.

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[quote=Monkeydad;935090]I'm not worried about Trent. I've seen him speak about it and really seems mature now and realizes he screwed up.

[B]Fred, he worries me some.[/B] He seemed to be more of a partier anyway.[/quote]

Yeah, reading about how he made such a mess of defending that lawsuit against him was a WTF moment for me. Before that, I thought he was smart enough to handle himself. Now, I'm not so sure.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;935027]I just don't get it though. Fred Davis is one strike away from a year long suspension and Nile Paul has a pretty bad case of the drops. Ironically enough I prefer Logan Paulsen at this point to Niles Paul. Hopefully I'm wrong because Paul has tons of upside at TE but right now it's nothing more then potential and empty Shanon Sharpe comparisons.[/quote]

Paul had one bad game and it was his first at TE. I think he rebounded pretty nicely.

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Both parties in that case were a mess. Who do you trust if you're the judge? Geesh.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;935030]I'm not worried about Fred Davis and Trent Williams getting suspended for the year. I think they learned their lesson. Especially when Freds in a contract year, he knows that he messes up and he's going nowhere to get a good contract. '[/quote]

I agree. I think they'll be fine.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;935088]I'm worried about them getting suspended.

Based on their own comments on the matter, it seems that neither of them has made any drastic lifestyle changes. If they haven't, that's a problem. [B]They're both just one weak moment at a party or giving in just once to a pushy friend away from a one year suspension. [/B]

Also, aren't they required by the NFL to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages, as well? That's not easy to do at a party or a nightclub.

If those two get suspended again (especially TW), it could cost the Skins a couple of games and cost MS his job.

The last thing I want to see is for DS to fire MS and change the HC and the system once again. I think that would really set us back.[/quote]

Very true, very true, obviously you nor I are either of them or close friends and family with them, so we really don't know, its just assumption and media that has us forming this opinion. I just see money as the root of everything in the world, and of course in todays NFL, and we've seen year after year guys do their best in contract years (cough, Albert Haynesworth, cough). So thats why I'm not worried about Fred because I think he realizes he's 1 blunt away from losing Millions. Trent on the other hand isn't in his contract year, so yes, he bothers me more, we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like TW and FD were more so testing the 'waters' of the NFLs drug policy, probably with the mind set of "Oh they never test us, nor have they test us in the 3 years we've been in the league, we're not gonna get caught". Side question, when the draft came out in '10 with TW, did we know he had done pot in college or was this all new to us last year?


And Smoot, as for Cooley going to Oakland, I don't see it, because 1, they suck. 2, He'd be moving to the other side of the country for a bad team, 3, I feel like the four teams I mentioned before would be better because they are all east coast teams and 'close' to home, except Miami, but it is Miami.

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Except that Cooley grew up in Utah. "Home" may be close to his family out there.

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I just suggested Oakland because of Al Saunders, that's all

As for Davis. First of all, everyone is one hit away from being sidelined for the year so I don't know why Davis' case is so special. And if the Redskins don't trust Davis enough they shouldn't even have kept him around this spring.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;935110]Except that Cooley grew up in Utah. "Home" may be close to his family out there.[/quote]

Well, he was born and raised in Wyomming, went to school in Utah, but by home I mean here since he's been here 8+ years and found his wife here.

But Ok, so teams close out there. Oakland--maybe but I don't see it. San Diego-nope. Arizona-maybe but they really really like Housler and have Heap. SLEEPER San francisco- he could backup another Davis and play before or after delanie walker. Denver---no.

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Maybe Cooley wants (needs?) to get away from home for a while

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[quote=SmootSmack;935114]Maybe Cooley wants (needs?) to get away from home for a while[/quote]

OK, you keep making these little comments that are creating some ideas in my head that I don't want to think about if they're untrue. You've done it a few times in this thread.

I don't expect you to spill Cooley's beans about his personal life but you're being such a tease...in every thread!