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Entirely as an aside (let's face it, there's nothing uplifting about our team) -- I like these: [url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/12/08/navy-football-team-to-wear-custom-uniforms-for-army-match-up/]Navy Football Team to Wear Custom Uniforms for Army Match-up « CBS DC[/url]

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[quote=Schneed10;1098768]In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you.

But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible.

Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.[/quote]

I would love for this to happen! But in the world of guaranteed contracts, Gruden could easily say, "It's my way. Don't like it, fire me so I can collect!" I don't suppose there is a clause in Gruden's contract that says if the 'skins have the same record as the previous year, the contract is null and void? I seriously think the front office brass needs to seriously consider that as an opt out option in future contracts!

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[quote=Schneed10;1098768]

Your wagons are hitched together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.[/quote]

sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.

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[quote=over the mountain;1098773]sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.[/quote]

Then he shouldn't have taken the job.

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[quote=over the mountain;1098767]i agree with a lot of Schneed's points .... but im pretty sure the DS telling a coach what to do will not end well for anyone, anywhere at any point.

since it is such a bad idea = what we will probably do

cant wait for this self-inflicted drama to end.[/quote]

It's not a real Redskins season unless there is more drama than wins.

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[quote=Schneed10;1098768]In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you.

But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible.

Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.[/quote]

Gruden has actually PLAYED the position. Doesn't make much sense for anyone to tell him what QB to play. What a real leader would do is tell the coach to play whomever gives the team the best chance to win. If that's Griffin, by all means play him. If it's not, sit him on the bench or trade him. At this point, or next year, there needs to be competition for the position and may the best man win.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1098778]Then he shouldn't have taken the job.[/quote]

Would you have turned down the sweet contract he was given? I doubt it.

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[quote=calia;1098770]Entirely as an aside (let's face it, there's nothing uplifting about our team) -- I like these: [url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/12/08/navy-football-team-to-wear-custom-uniforms-for-army-match-up/]Navy Football Team to Wear Custom Uniforms for Army Match-up « CBS DC[/url][/quote]

Its interesting but they dont really look like Navy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1098788]Gruden has actually PLAYED the position. Doesn't make much sense for anyone to tell him what QB to play.[/quote]



lol So did Zorn and he was pretty good at it .

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could be a breach of contract depending on how it was written


[quote=over the mountain;1098773]sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.[/quote]

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[quote=Rotten1980;1098763]How did Cleveland land Pettine? How did Lions land Caldwell? The list goes on and on. Franchises in disarray hire the right coach who puts it on the right track.[/quote]

Detroit had[B] much more [/B]talent then the Skins do right now. And their owner isn't crazy. That was a solid job. And Pettine wasn't on anybody else's wish list. In fact I think he was Cleveland's 4th or 5th choice.

And yet you still didn't answer my question, who do you want that you think will take the job? Because I think the lot of you don't want to name a guy so you can rip that same guy when he doesn't turn this mess around.

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There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. There's always someone out there willing to take on an exclusive job at $5m or more per year.

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[quote=Mattyk;1098811]There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. There's always someone out there willing to take on an exclusive job at $5m or more per year.[/quote]

Ya, but will they be any better than Gruden? Sometimes is the job and not the employee.

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My fantasy is Bill Cowher. I would love to see him coach the Redskins. I cannot imagine he'd want to deal with the insanity that is this franchise, but he'd crack some skulls and get results, man. Sigh -- won't ever happen.

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Joe Gibbs