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As long as whoever they pick meshes well with Bruce and Jay, that's all I care about. It's a pipe dream to think one guy is going to come in and have 100% autonomy. Oh and save the boozing until you're off the clock please.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167694]Bruce Allen was supposed to be better than Vinny Cerrato:
Bruce Allen’s arrival was hailed as the start of the era of professionalism, and the end of the era of the Clown Prince of Redskins Park, Vinny Cerrato.

During his stint from 2002 to 2009, Cerrato’s record was 52-65.

Bruce Allen’s reign at Redskins Park? A record of 45-66-1.

[url=http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/9/bruce-allen-was-supposed-be-better-vinny-cerrato/]Bruce Allen was supposed to be better than Vinny Cerrato - Washington Times[/url][/quote]

can't argue it's been more bust then boom, but we did win 2 division titles in 4 years and the first back to back winning seasons in ages. It's also kind of weird that Cerrato's includes 5 more games?

I don't think most anyone is saying BA is the best ever, but he clearly has had an effect reducing DS direct interference, and hopefully we will find the right combination of a solid GM-Talent guy, a strong HC, and BA .

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/03/10/chris-cooley-apologizes-to-scot-mccloughan-swears-he-wasnt-redskins-mouthpiece/?utm_term=.9ec58a38f15b"]Chris Cooley apologizes to Scot McCloughan, swears he wasn’t Redskins’ mouthpiece[/URL]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1167702]can't argue it's been more bust then boom, but we did win 2 division titles in 4 years and the first back to back winning seasons in ages. It's also kind of weird that Cerrato's includes 5 more games?

I don't think most anyone is saying BA is the best ever, but he clearly has had an effect reducing DS direct interference, and hopefully we will find the right combination of a solid GM-Talent guy, a strong HC, and BA .[/quote]

I just copy and pasted from the story, so I am not sure if the records are correct.
I just thought it was relevant to the blame being laid at SM feet. If SM is going to be harshly judged, then lets judge and grade everyone. Bruce Allen remains and the questions needs to be asked....why?

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1167707]I just copy and pasted from the story, so I am not sure if the records are correct.
I just thought it was relevant to the blame being laid at SM feet. If SM is going to be harshly judged, then lets judge and grade everyone. Bruce Allen remains and the questions needs to be asked....why?[/QUOTE]
He is Dans obligatory sycophant. He has attempted to bring in people with GM talent in MS and SM and won a division title with both. Vinny didn'tbring in faux GMs and led a downward spiral ending with a zorny outcome.

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[quote=hilker09;1167575]Oh, I don't think Gruden had anything to do with it...definitely Allen, though.

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And you know this how?

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

[QUOTE=SCRedskinsFan;1167722]And you know this how?[/QUOTE]
I don't know for sure. I just think Allen was involved.

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Anyone that has a legit resume or past history of success should stay clear of Redskin Park. They need to just hire from within and give Sanots, Williams or Campbell the GM job. Those guys know the drill and can work under the way the Redskins do business.. Someone from the outside with a personality like Mayock will not work here. They're just wasting everyone's time putting that out there.

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

Mayock knows Allen and Gruden well.

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[quote=MTK;1167729]Mayock knows Allen and Gruden well.[/quote]



Unless he is agreeing to be a straw GM,why take the job?

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

Mayock gave a written statement on NFLN this evening saying that he has not been approached by the Redskins, has has not spoken to anyone from the Redskins organization and he has not had any conversations about a job with the Redskins.

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

Sometimes people are comfortable being in an advisory capacity. Who knows, maybe Mayock would be ok giving his draft board to Jay and Bruce and letting them execute it as they saw fit.

That's clearly what Allen wanted from McCloughan. That would have been fine if it was explained that way up front, to both Scot and the public.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167735]Mayock gave a written statement on NFLN this evening saying that he has not been approached by the Redskins, has has not spoken to anyone from the Redskins organization and he has not had any conversations about a job with the Redskins.[/quote]

Correct, but that doesn't mean he's not a candidate. At the moment they're all way too busy with free agency to start contacting GM candidates. One thing at a time.

They probably are just in the process of creating a short list at this point. I'd think they'll think about hiring after the draft. Before McC left he had the draft board done, so they'll ride into this draft using his board and start fresh with a new GM after that.

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It's a tough calll to think which road is the best...internal guy, someone outside familiar with Bruce and the org or a total outsider....I just extremely disappointing to hear the organization still has this divisive and petty nature going on within the confines of skins park. This situation was absurd and how it was handled...

I got nothing...my preference would be a fresh, strong personality within the org from the outside. Mayock kinda has a personality like that...I don't want Doug Williams.

And that Cooley piece, he can go fuck himself. Playing dumb ain't gonna work at this point.

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 

[quote=Chico23231;1167739]It's a tough calll to think which road is the best...internal guy, someone outside familiar with Bruce and the org or a total outsider....I just extremely disappointing to hear the organization still has this divisive and petty nature going on within the confines of skins park. This situation was absurd and how it was handled...

I got nothing...my preference would be a fresh, strong personality within the org from the outside. Mayock kinda has a personality like that...I don't want Doug Williams.

And that Cooley piece, he can go fuck himself. Playing dumb ain't gonna work at this point.[/quote]

Didi Cooley steal your prom date? You have been bashing him for weeks.