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[quote=skinsfaninok;1249187]They offered Cooper because he would have instantly made our WR group a top tier talent. Cooper, Terry and Sims? Nasty.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]Exactly. Also taking him away from Dallas. He has said he wants a #1 wr now since coming. The whispers at least. Will be interesting to see if he goes with the current wr group or tries to acquire more via fa/draft. Personally, I feel shoring up the oline is way more important and will reap massive dividends for the offense.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1249187]They offered Cooper because he would have instantly made our WR group a top tier talent. Cooper, Terry and Sims? Nasty.

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Cooper isn't even the best wr on his own team. As Rex Ryan said, he basically disappears against top competition, he disappears on the road, aka against the Eagles late last year. He doesn't have any dog or alpha male in his body. If I'm paying a wr that kind of money he better be a dog, an alpha, a leader and someone that demands the ball. Cooper is none of those. Glad he stayed with Dallas. Rex Ryan and Jon Gruden agree.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1249261]Cooper isn't even the best wr on his own team. As Rex Ryan said, he basically disappears against top competition, he disappears on the road, aka against the Eagles late last year. He doesn't have any dog or alpha male in his body. If I'm paying a wr that kind of money he better be a dog, an alpha, a leader and someone that demands the ball. Cooper is none of those. Glad he stayed with Dallas. Rex Ryan and Jon Gruden agree.[/quote]

U Think Gallup is better than Cooper? No way

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[quote=skinsfan69;1249261]Cooper isn't even the best wr on his own team. As Rex Ryan said, he basically disappears against top competition, he disappears on the road, aka against the Eagles late last year. He doesn't have any dog or alpha male in his body. If I'm paying a wr that kind of money he better be a dog, an alpha, a leader and [B]someone that demands the ball[/B]. Cooper is none of those. Glad he stayed with Dallas. Rex Ryan and Jon Gruden agree.[/quote]

You lost me here. I don't want any player on my team that demands the ball, because every single one of those guys get pissy when the qb doesn't force feed them the ball. I believe the preferred nomenclature is "diva."

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[quote=Ohioskins;1249185]For me it is a bit hard to "love what he is doing" because, so far, he has not done much.[/quote]

Couldn’t disagree more. What he’s not doing is exactly what we’ve been doing for the last decade and a half. Overpaying diva free agents who come for a pay day and don’t care about putting the team first.

Ron is looking for a specific kind of guy. The right fit. Not big name splashy guys. Hard working no names with the traits and mental aspect he’s looking for. What other team has won 6 Super Bowls with that model? The Patriots. Now we are far from being the Pats, but what I’m saying is his approach is refreshing from the stand point that we aren’t going to be a winner over night. He’s doing it the slow and methodical way. The build through the draft, get the right fit guys kind of way.

I will take 5 free agencies in a row like this bc I think we’ve been doing it wrong for years. And I think it’s laughable that so many Skins fans who cry wolf at our antics for years are now chastising Rivera for not making splash moves.

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Great post!!!!

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[quote=SkinzWin;1249264]Couldn’t disagree more. What he’s not doing is exactly what we’ve been doing for the last decade and a half. Overpaying diva free agents who come for a pay day and don’t care about putting the team first.

Ron is looking for a specific kind of guy. The right fit. Not big name splashy guys. Hard working no names with the traits and mental aspect he’s looking for. What other team has won 6 Super Bowls with that model? The Patriots. Now we are far from being the Pats, but what I’m saying is his approach is refreshing from the stand point that we aren’t going to be a winner over night. He’s doing it the slow and methodical way. The build through the draft, get the right fit guys kind of way.

I will take 5 free agencies in a row like this bc I think we’ve been doing it wrong for years. And I think it’s laughable that so many Skins fans who cry wolf at our antics for years are now chastising Rivera for not making splash moves.[/quote]

I think it's been a decent FA period, wish we would have landed Amari but o well. I'm glad they didn't go crazy

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Can't not sign big dogs because of past bad choices with big dogs. But you also can't force a big dog onto the roster. Has to be within the budget, within the team you're trying to build, at a position of need, etc. We shouldn't let anything from the past dictate the future.

But you also don't get every guy you want anyways. Seems like the Skins went all in for Cooper and didn't get him. Sometimes it happens.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1249264]Couldn’t disagree more. What he’s not doing is exactly what we’ve been doing for the last decade and a half. Overpaying diva free agents who come for a pay day and don’t care about putting the team first.

Ron is looking for a specific kind of guy. The right fit. Not big name splashy guys. Hard working no names with the traits and mental aspect he’s looking for. What other team has won 6 Super Bowls with that model? The Patriots. Now we are far from being the Pats, but what I’m saying is his approach is refreshing from the stand point that we aren’t going to be a winner over night. He’s doing it the slow and methodical way. The build through the draft, get the right fit guys kind of way.

I will take 5 free agencies in a row like this bc I think we’ve been doing it wrong for years. And I think it’s laughable that so many Skins fans who cry wolf at our antics for years are now chastising Rivera for not making splash moves.[/QUOTE]
+1
The only niggle I have is that we don't appear to have gone after many other bigger names in areas of need, like Lb and DB. I say appear because RR has played his cards pretty well and we're not fully aware of ALL the negotiations that have been/are taking place. He's either been smart enough not to reveal too much about who we have gone after/what we offered or he's hiding the fact we haven't really gone after bigger names aside from Hooper and Cooper. I trust that it's the former more than the latter, but I agree he's only going after guys that fit his template and he and Kyle will continue that in the draft.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1249264]Couldn’t disagree more. What he’s not doing is exactly what we’ve been doing for the last decade and a half. Overpaying diva free agents who come for a pay day and don’t care about putting the team first.

Ron is looking for a specific kind of guy. The right fit. Not big name splashy guys. Hard working no names with the traits and mental aspect he’s looking for. What other team has won 6 Super Bowls with that model? The Patriots. Now we are far from being the Pats, but what I’m saying is his approach is refreshing from the stand point that we aren’t going to be a winner over night. He’s doing it the slow and methodical way. The build through the draft, get the right fit guys kind of way.

I will take 5 free agencies in a row like this bc I think we’ve been doing it wrong for years. And I think it’s laughable that so many Skins fans who cry wolf at our antics for years are now chastising Rivera for not making splash moves.[/quote]

Yep I'm with you on this

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[quote=SkinzWin;1249264]Couldn’t disagree more. What he’s not doing is exactly what we’ve been doing for the last decade and a half. Overpaying diva free agents who come for a pay day and don’t care about putting the team first.

Ron is looking for a specific kind of guy. The right fit. Not big name splashy guys. Hard working no names with the traits and mental aspect he’s looking for. What other team has won 6 Super Bowls with that model? The Patriots. Now we are far from being the Pats, but what I’m saying is his approach is refreshing from the stand point that we aren’t going to be a winner over night. He’s doing it the slow and methodical way. The build through the draft, get the right fit guys kind of way.

I will take 5 free agencies in a row like this bc I think we’ve been doing it wrong for years. And I think it’s laughable that so many Skins fans who cry wolf at our antics for years are now chastising Rivera for not making splash moves.[/quote]

Well said. Agree 100%.

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Five free agencies in a row that do not add much starting talent is not the way to build a championship team. It is nice to look for "character'. But some talent would also be appreciated and, particularly on offense, we have not added any real talent during the UFA period. So no, I would not like to see five years of UFA periods with no addition of talent on the offensive side of the ball. The current offensive line is horrendous. Skins could easily have afforded a two year deal to Jason Peters, who is a high character guy by the way, rather than the duel of backups that currently fill the LT position. And I am sure that all of you who are so satisfied with what RR has not done on offense that you will be blaming Haskins for his inability to throw TD passes from the seat of his pants which is where he will be quite a bit this year.

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There should be a middle ground between what Bruce Allen chasing "names" did and what RR is doing now, avoiding adding talent.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1249324]There should be a middle ground between what Bruce Allen chasing "names" did and what RR is doing now, avoiding adding talent.[/quote]

Your posts are like a broken record. Let me see if I understand you. You don't like the way RR has handled Free Agency. Is that it?

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[quote=Ohioskins;1249324]There should be a middle ground between what Bruce Allen chasing "names" did and what RR is doing now, avoiding adding talent.[/quote]

Big names don't always equate to quality moves.