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our strength of schedule will hurt in terms of draft position, seems to be greater than the teams above

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I don’t want Carr he’s been in the league for years and hasn’t done much. Good guy and gamer but we have had that with Smith, Heineke etc.

Watson won’t come to Washington he’s already said so.

Rodgers? Lmao that’s a pipe dream

It’s basically a rookie or some how a miracle Russel Wilson comes. (Highly doubtful)

The best Free agent is Winston. I’d take him at the last resort

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[quote=skinsfan69;1305956]I wouldn't worry about completion %. To me that is the most useless QB stat. Pickett throws the ball downfield. He isn't throwing 15 wr screens a game like a lot of these college Qb's.[/quote]

Good to know about throwing down field. Agree with completion % I just know that no QB ever ends up with a higher % at the pros than college so you kind of get what you get

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1305974]Sending our first round pick…a top 10…and 2023 2nd rounder would probably do it for Russ Wilson.



Out competition would be from in our own division like Philly or Gaints



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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1306003]The benches will be collectors items once the new Hogs logos come out. [emoji203][emoji241][emoji203]

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New benches!?

Fuck yes!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305982]I don’t want Carr he’s been in the league for years and hasn’t done much. Good guy and gamer but we have had that with Smith, Heineke etc.

Watson won’t come to Washington he’s already said so.

Rodgers? Lmao that’s a pipe dream

It’s basically a rookie or some how a miracle Russel Wilson comes. (Highly doubtful)

The best Free agent is Winston. I’d take him at the last resort[/quote]

I don't think Watson at this point is in a position to be turning his nose up to anyone. He has already lost a year. Miami may not be an option anymore cause Tua is starting play his best ball. Eagles are the obvious choice cause they have so much draft capital and Hurts sucks.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1306009]I don't think Watson at this point is in a position to be turning his nose up to anyone. He has already lost a year. Miami may not be an option anymore cause Tua is starting play his best ball. Eagles are the obvious choice cause they have so much draft capital and Hurts sucks.[/quote]

I am not sure they are ready to move on from Hurts. They would rather play an injured Hurts than a healthy Minschew. That said you would be dumb not to upgrade to Watson over Hurts assuming it is risk tolerant

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[quote=jamf;1305961]Bullshit.
Turner and Zampese, both gifted jobs from daddy’s contacts, will give Snyder a scouting report of veteran QB available.
Mayhew and Hurney will give Dan a scouting report of draft able QBs.

Dan will be deciding on who they get.
My source? 2+ decades of offseason bullshit with this team.[/quote]

Regardless of Snyder, what evidence is there that this front office, including Ron, has a track record of drafting/developing good quarterbacks? If all you have to go on is Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford, that is pretty thin. We don't have the first pick in the draft and neither of those guys has done anything to speak of on a consistent basis anyway. Picking the number one consensus quarterback with the first pick doesn't take much football IQ, quite the opposite when you look at the results over the years.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1306026]Regardless of Snyder, what evidence is there that this front office, including Ron, has a track record of drafting/developing good quarterbacks? If all you have to go on is Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford, that is pretty thin. We don't have the first pick in the draft and neither of those guys has done anything to speak of on a consistent basis anyway. Picking the number one consensus quarterback with the first pick doesn't take much football IQ, quite the opposite when you look at the results over the years.[/quote]

That's a fine argument, but conversely, what evidence is there that this front office, including Ron, is incapable of drafting/developing good quarterbacks? Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford [I]is[/I] all we have to go on. There are plenty of examples of number one consensus quarterbacks failing in the NFL. The only two we have to go on did not fail.

Here in Washington they inherited Smith coming off a devastating injury, and Haskins who was a lost cause. They got rid of Haskins in year 1, something maybe a lot of Coaches/Front Offices might not have done so quickly - who knows. Smith retired. They have yet to draft a QB for development here. They attempted to bring in a capable Veteran as a stop gap this year, and he was hurt in the first quarter of the first game. Allen is a backup, Heinicke is a backup, and are only playing because Fitz got hurt.

The 2021 plan didn't work - I'll give you that. Does that make it a bad plan? Not in my opinion since the main contributor to the plan failing was the unexpected injury to Fitz. Since they did make a play for Stafford, and were rumored to be in discussions with regard to other quality Veteran QBs, you can't say they didn't try to go that route. So the last thing is maybe they should have drafted a QB. Well, none of the QBs drafted in 2021 are exactly lighting up the league right now. Maybe they weren't enamored with any of the 2021 draft options at QB - especially considering the cost to move up to get them.

The team needs a QB - there is no debating that. I do think they have tried to do something about that, but have perhaps been unwilling to pony up what it is going to cost to get one. Maybe this year has done enough to convince them otherwise. We will see this offseason. But I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that this front office, including Ron, is incapable of drafting/developing good quarterbacks.

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Who are some of the Qb that will be available what will it take to get them.

Aaron Rogers
Deshawn Watson
Russell Wilson
David Carr
Marcus Marrota
Jamies Watson
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousin
Mitch Trubisky
Jimmy Garofalo

These are the names I came up with. I think you go after Watson. I know all the problems but he fits exactly what we need in playing style. If not him I think Baker Mayfield may be the happy medium we need. He can throw well and can run alittle. On the cheap bring Marcus Marrota in see what he can do you would have him to compete with Henike.

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Heinicke can compete for the backup position next year. He should not be competing for QB1. That option has run its course.

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[quote=Redskins 2021;1306031]Who are some of the Qb that will be available what will it take to get them.

Aaron Rogers
Deshawn Watson
Russell Wilson
David Carr
Marcus Marrota
Jamies Watson
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousin
Mitch Trubisky
Jimmy Garofalo

These are the names I came up with. I think you go after Watson. I know all the problems but he fits exactly what we need in playing style. If not him I think Baker Mayfield may be the happy medium we need. He can throw well and can run alittle. On the cheap bring Marcus Marrota in see what he can do you would have him to compete with Henike.[/quote]

You go after Watson and Wilson

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I agree but who do we go after and what does it take to get them. I think we should look at possible trading some of defensive line we probably can't sign them all.

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Enough with dicking around with journeymen and retreads. Get a stud veteran no matter what it takes, or a blue chip draft pick, again no matter what it takes. Year 3 of Ron can't start with the QB issue up in the air again.

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DRAFT A QB!!! We ain't getting an elite veteran and I agree, no veteran mediocre retread.