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MTK 09-07-2023 02:45 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
Didn’t anyone see Robert Saleh break down his 4 levels of competitors?

[url]https://footballscoop.com/news/robert-saleh-breaks-down-the-4-levels-of-competitors[/url]

Summo 09-07-2023 03:02 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
To me it sounds like they are trying to say all the right things and keep ramping up the fans fervor and not explicitly saying that they are or aren't changing the name and keep pointing the conversation towards winning and looking to the future.

IMO with the costs of re-branding yet again, that cant be a priority, not with the stadium in shambles and all the costs to fix it temporarily. And what the cost of building a new stadium will be, which is the ultimate goal, I think the compromise will be they will ultimately keep the Commanders name and re-design the uniforms to look like the Redskin/WFT ones and everyone will be happy, not really but close enough.

irish 09-07-2023 03:34 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1344562]Bringing back Redskins? no
Name change? on the table

[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/07/washington-commanders-mitchell-rales-name-change/?taid=64f984660336bb000176282d&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter[/url][/quote]

I feel like the name Commanders was more of a Ron choice than a Snyder choice. By the time that decision rolled around DS had checked out and seemed like he didn't care what happened with the team or the name. Ron always seemed to be advocating for a military related name and with DS checked out Ron spearheaded the decision and got what he wanted by default.

SkinsGuru 09-07-2023 03:47 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=Summo;1344570]To me it sounds like they are trying to say all the right things and keep ramping up the fans fervor and not explicitly saying that they are or aren't changing the name and keep pointing the conversation towards winning and looking to the future.

IMO with the costs of re-branding yet again, that cant be a priority, not with the stadium in shambles and all the costs to fix it temporarily. And what the cost of building a new stadium will be, which is the ultimate goal, I think the compromise will be they will ultimately keep the Commanders name and re-design the uniforms to look like the Redskin/WFT ones and everyone will be happy, not really but close enough.[/quote]

rebranding is a money maker . . . there are some upfront costs, but, especially with new ownership fever, the merchandize sales will be through the roofs. [URL="https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/08/05/899451156/the-washington-football-team-s-name-change-could-be-a-financial-boon-for-dan-snyder"]Source:[/URL]

[quote]"There's really some decent money in changing the logo," explains Nola Agha, an associate professor of sport management at the University of San Francisco and a board member for the North American Association of Sports Economists. "What you have is a new revenue stream ... from selling merchandise, licensing or anything that has the new logo on it."

It helps the team that NFL franchises tend to make money regardless of athletic performance. Kenneth Shropshire, the CEO of the Global Sport Institute at Arizona State University, notes that team values generally rise "no matter what shortfall is taking place at the moment."[/quote]

That was from an old article, but have read many regarding it. and with the hate of the name Commanders, seems like merchandize sales for a new name selected by the fans would be a HUGE windfall of cash!!

Ruhskins 09-07-2023 04:18 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=irish;1344573]I feel like the name Commanders was more of a Ron choice than a Snyder choice. By the time that decision rolled around DS had checked out and seemed like he didn't care what happened with the team or the name. Ron always seemed to be advocating for a military related name and with DS checked out Ron spearheaded the decision and got what he wanted by default.[/quote]

Snyder was too busy funneling as much money as he could from the team (see his "marketing" $4 million dollar a year fee to have the team logo on his private plane :doh: )

Summo 09-07-2023 04:31 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1344574]rebranding is a money maker . . . there are some upfront costs, but, especially with new ownership fever, the merchandize sales will be through the roofs. [URL="https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/08/05/899451156/the-washington-football-team-s-name-change-could-be-a-financial-boon-for-dan-snyder"]Source:[/URL]



That was from an old article, but have read many regarding it. and with the hate of the name Commanders, seems like merchandize sales for a new name selected by the fans would be a HUGE windfall of cash!![/quote]

I would think it would be a windfall for changing it once, but three times in 4 years? Not so sure about that. Besides the revenue sharing, it all goes into one pot and distributed evenly so I would think the other 31 owners would have a say as well.

SFREDSKIN 09-07-2023 04:41 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/native-american-group-redskins-removal-funded-soros-foundation-other-leftist-orgs[/url]

Ruhskins 09-07-2023 04:43 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1344580][url]https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/native-american-group-redskins-removal-funded-soros-foundation-other-leftist-orgs[/url][/quote]

Dude, I like your postings, but take this propaganda political sh*t out of here.

SkinsGuru 09-07-2023 05:45 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=Summo;1344578]I would think it would be a windfall for changing it once, but three times in 4 years? Not so sure about that. Besides the revenue sharing, it all goes into one pot and distributed evenly so I would think the other 31 owners would have a say as well.[/quote]

this would be the only one the fans wanted . . . NOBODY i personally know that is a fan has bought anything with Commanders on it . . . NOBODY! Some of you may have, but i guarantee that if it is rebranded to a name selected by fans while the new ownership honeymoon is still in effect, just about everyone would buy something. I know I would. I actually got Johan Dodson jersey for Christmas last year and asked for a receipt to return it. I simply cannot wear that shit.

punch it in 09-07-2023 06:01 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1344568]Didn’t anyone see Robert Saleh break down his 4 levels of competitors?

[url]https://footballscoop.com/news/robert-saleh-breaks-down-the-4-levels-of-competitors[/url][/QUOTE]


Hahaha.

punch it in 09-07-2023 06:03 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1344581]Dude, I like your postings, but take this propaganda political sh*t out of here.[/QUOTE]


Seriously.

SFREDSKIN 09-07-2023 07:05 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1344581]Dude, I like your postings, but take this propaganda political sh*t out of here.[/quote]

Propaganda? It’s an article. No into politics

nonniey 09-07-2023 08:07 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
The answer is sitting there in front of us - Braves- go back to the original name and you can unretire the NA logo that is so popular with that group and the rest of us.

Summo 09-07-2023 08:12 PM

Re: Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1344585]this would be the only one the fans wanted . . . NOBODY i personally know that is a fan has bought anything with Commanders on it . . . NOBODY! Some of you may have, but i guarantee that if it is rebranded to a name selected by fans while the new ownership honeymoon is still in effect, just about everyone would buy something. I know I would. I actually got Johan Dodson jersey for Christmas last year and asked for a receipt to return it. I simply cannot wear that shit.[/quote]

That’s ok. I guarantee I’ve bought enough merchandise to make up the lack of purchases by you and all three of your friends :)

punch it in 09-07-2023 08:47 PM

Changing The Team Name, Give It A Rest!!
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1344590]Propaganda? It’s an article. No into politics[/QUOTE]


Soros and fox= politics. And make me want to talk about the group trying to reinstate the name claiming they are native Americans and we gonna go down a rabbit hole. Which is why Ruh shut that shit down.


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