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[quote=Chico23231;1285485]Any reason he excluded Idaho and Montana from the wildfire summit today? Guess Biden only cares about blue state voters. Weird I was told different[/quote]

Were you awake when "you heard"?

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[quote=MTK;1285481][URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-organization-expected-be-charged-tax-related-crimes-thursday-n1272711"]Trump Organization expected to be charged with tax-related crimes on Thursday[/URL]

:laughing2[/quote]

I mean, could this be anymore of a partisan move?

Trump busy getting down to access the border crisis which his administration had the lowest illegal crossing number in decades while in the first 4 months saw the largest single monthly figures ever. Criminals, terrorists, drug runners, all coming over

Trump forced Harris to actually go where she embarrassed herself again last week

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A bipartisan infrastructure deal reached by President Joe Biden and a group of senators would not only add to economic growth, but also lower the national debt, according to a new study from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.

Researchers at the Wharton School said the additional $579 billion in new infrastructure spending would increase domestic output by 0.1% and decrease the U.S. debt by 0.9% by 2050.

“Over time, as the new spending declines, IRS enforcement continues, and revenue grows from higher output, the government debt declines relative to baseline by 0.4 percent and 0.9 percent in 2040 and 2050 respectively,” the Wharton team wrote.

Speaking to CNBC on Tuesday, Wharton senior economist Jon Huntley said improvements to public capital (roads, bridges and other physical infrastructure) makes private capital (trucks and trains hauling goods for companies) more productive over time.

[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/30/biden-infrastructure-plan-would-cut-us-debt-add-to-gdp-wharton-study.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard[/url]

I dont put too much stock into these future looking cost analysis/benefit things.

its a 1.2T package and will include bringing high speed broadband to the really rural places that dont have it. Which is great ... but I thought private companies pay and build the cable lines and thus "own" it and make their billions.

Internet and access to internet certainly seems to be a public utility nowadays.

On a related but unrelated note .. I always found it funny when rural conservatives attack the USPS for not being profitable .. its like homey, they would be if they werent forced to deliver to remote rural areas for $0.55. You want to privatize mail? okay ... well good luck paying the fed ex sliding scale rate.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285488]I mean, could this be anymore of a partisan move?

Trump busy getting down to access the border crisis which his administration had the lowest illegal crossing number in decades while in the first 4 months saw the largest single monthly figures ever. Criminals, terrorists, drug runners, all coming over

Trump forced Harris to actually go where she embarrassed herself again last week[/quote]

LOL, told ya! ...only person embarrassing themselves is you.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285488]I mean, could this be anymore of a partisan move?

Trump busy getting down to access the border crisis which his administration had the lowest illegal crossing number in decades while in the first 4 months saw the largest single monthly figures ever. Criminals, terrorists, drug runners, all coming over

Trump forced Harris to actually go where she embarrassed herself again last week[/quote]

Well if it conducted tax crimes then I have no problem with charging them. Lets see how this shakes out. I may be a bit jaded in this but would it surprise you if they did commit this type of crime?

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[url]https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290[/url]

Not a healthy environment’: Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent


Reminder that Harris presidential run was a complete train wreck per the NYT Nov 2019:

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html[/url]

There is a pattern here folks of a person who can’t handle the job

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285485]Any reason he excluded Idaho and Montana from the wildfire summit today? Guess Biden only cares about blue state voters. Weird I was told different[/QUOTE]


What he has to give shout outs? I think California is obviously the main, and most populated state in such dangers, but if there is action, funding, support needed in any state rest assured Biden will treat them all equally. You are greatly mistaken if you think he would play politics when it comes to natural disaster and lives Chico. Again deflecting from your guy who actually did such things to someone else with no actual proof other than what “lack of mention” ? If push cane to shove you know damn well Biden would take care of any state in our country- even Puerto Rico. You are so desperate to normalize Trump. Lol.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285497][url]https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290[/url]

Not a healthy environment’: Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent


Reminder that Harris presidential run was a complete train wreck per the NYT Nov 2019:

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html[/url]

There is a pattern here folks of a person who can’t handle the job[/QUOTE]


Keep grasping for straws Chico. It’s hysterical watching you tread water waiting, clinging to the faint distant hope that this administration will stumble and crap their pants like the last. The gold medal for Unpreparedness, and crapping the bed is Trumps. There, see, I said he is the best at something.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285432][url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-city-release-latest-vote-totals-mayoral-contest-2021-06-29/[/url]

Confusion grips New York City mayoral Democratic primary after vote 'discrepancy'[/quote]

Got it. When you said Adams with a Trump like statement I was looking for something more crass. Sorry that's where my mind went.

Do agree it is not a good look which is a shame because I think this system would increase voting for third party candidates and a successful role out in NYC would be huge for democracy.

I think the big difference is that Adams comments were based on a known discrepancy acknowledged by the BOE. Trump made his accusation they were well documented and then taken to court where most were thrown out.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285488]I mean, could this be anymore of a partisan move?

Trump busy getting down to access the border crisis which his administration had the lowest illegal crossing number in decades while in the first 4 months saw the largest single monthly figures ever. Criminals, terrorists, drug runners, all coming over

Trump forced Harris to actually go where she embarrassed herself again last week[/quote]

LOL, you do know how they nailed Al Capone?

[url]https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/capone-goes-to-prison[/url]


Al Capone goes to prison
On October 17, 1931, gangster Al Capone is sentenced to 11 years in prison for tax evasion and fined $80,000, signaling the downfall of one of the most notorious criminals of the 1920s and 1930s.

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[url]https://news.yahoo.com/historians-rank-trump-near-bottom-140039129.html[/url]


Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10


Donald Trump is ranked near the bottom of all U.S. presidents by a group of historians, getting the lowest grades for leadership of any commander in chief who has served in the White House in the past 150 years.

The ratings of presidents on 10 leadership qualities, the fourth in a series conducted by C-SPAN, includes assessments by 142 historians and professional observers of the presidency.

The findings underscore the duality of Trump's standing, unprecedented among his fellow presidents. After his upset victory in 2016 and his defeat in 2020, historians hold him in the lowest regard of any president since soon after the Civil War. But he continues to be the face of the Republican Party and its most influential figure, and he is viewed as a potential contender for the GOP's presidential nomination in 2024.

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[quote=Giantone;1285512][url]https://news.yahoo.com/historians-rank-trump-near-bottom-140039129.html[/url]


Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10


Donald Trump is ranked near the bottom of all U.S. presidents by a group of historians, getting the lowest grades for leadership of any commander in chief who has served in the White House in the past 150 years.

The ratings of presidents on 10 leadership qualities, the fourth in a series conducted by C-SPAN, includes assessments by 142 historians and professional observers of the presidency.

The findings underscore the duality of Trump's standing, unprecedented among his fellow presidents. After his upset victory in 2016 and his defeat in 2020, historians hold him in the lowest regard of any president since soon after the Civil War. But he continues to be the face of the Republican Party and its most influential figure, and he is viewed as a potential contender for the GOP's presidential nomination in 2024.[/quote]

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/VDTOChMWX1BmFflzyr/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47da7f7wbcx5xvyw9wq53o87zfvwu6uahlj3d8ea0d&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1285512][url]https://news.yahoo.com/historians-rank-trump-near-bottom-140039129.html[/url]


Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10


[/quote]

Well they got it half right.

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[quote=nonniey;1285514]Well they got it half right.[/quote]

I tend to agree but probably for different reasons than you. IMO the US presidents have been pretty bad especially the last 50 years that it is hard to rationalize any of the 45 being in the top 10. The only argument for Obama IMO is the creation of the ACA this makes him the first president to address the first unalienable right in the Declaration of Independence of Life

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285505]Got it. When you said Adams with a Trump like statement I was looking for something more crass. Sorry that's where my mind went.

Do agree it is not a good look which is a shame because I think this system would increase voting for third party candidates and a successful role out in NYC would be huge for democracy.

I think the big difference is that Adams comments were based on a known discrepancy acknowledged by the BOE. Trump made his accusation they were well documented and then taken to court where most were thrown out.[/quote]

This rank and file voting bullshit…everyone know this is a way to manipulate vote
Right? Clown shit

This is how it went the other night:

A voting update drops 100k votes with absentee yet to go…out of nowhere in the afternoon

Adams at 5 pm: this looks crazy

Jurnos an hour later: Adams statement sounds like trump

10:30 pm New York election board: we counted 100k fake votes

What in the actual fuck?

And people support ballot harvesting, no voter id? It’s like folks are purposely incompetent

Great decision by the Supreme Court today by the way

Does anyone think MLB will move any games out of NY do to the attempted voter fraud trying to remove Adams as the winner?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285517]I tend to agree but probably for different reasons than you. IMO the US presidents have been pretty bad especially the last 50 years that it is hard to rationalize any of the 45 being in the top 10. The only argument for Obama IMO is the creation of the ACA this makes him the first president to address the first unalienable right in the Declaration of Independence of Life[/quote]

No, I think we are on the same page somewhat on Obama - ACA is the only thing he really got accomplished (Think our difference lies in that I think that accomplishment is more limited in significance than you). I expect he'll end up settling in the 20-28 range when all is said and done and be behind Clinton and HW (ie center of the pack). As for your assessment of the last 50 years I think you are being a bit too pessimistic (ok having one of the bottom five so recently may color your thinking) - Most were average and one was top 25%. Think the chart linked below is fairly accurate imo.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1285512][url]https://news.yahoo.com/historians-rank-trump-near-bottom-140039129.html[/url]


Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10


Donald Trump is ranked near the bottom of all U.S. presidents by a group of historians, getting the lowest grades for leadership of any commander in chief who has served in the White House in the past 150 years.

The ratings of presidents on 10 leadership qualities, the fourth in a series conducted by C-SPAN, includes assessments by 142 historians and professional observers of the presidency.

The findings underscore the duality of Trump's standing, unprecedented among his fellow presidents. After his upset victory in 2016 and his defeat in 2020, historians hold him in the lowest regard of any president since soon after the Civil War. But he continues to be the face of the Republican Party and its most influential figure, and he is viewed as a potential contender for the GOP's presidential nomination in 2024.[/quote]

You done did it now G1. Get ready for the most epic speech lambasting the crooked left by Chico that you're ever gonna read in your life.

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[quote=nonniey;1285521]No, I think we are on the same page somewhat on Obama - ACA is the only thing he really got accomplished (Think our difference lies in that I think that accomplishment is more limited in significance than you). I expect he'll end up settling in the 20-28 range when all is said and done and be behind Clinton and HW (ie center of the pack). As for your assessment of the last 50 years I think you are being a bit too pessimistic (ok having one of the bottom five so recently may color your thinking) - Most were average and one was top 25%. Think the chart linked below is fairly accurate imo.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States[/url][/quote]

I disagree, I think Obamacare (just for you Chico) has been weakened enough that Obama's main accomplishment is leading us out of one of the worst depressions this country has seen. But I fully expect every one of our conservatives here to disagree with me on that - they will probably say he didn't do nearly enough that a conservative president would've done.

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[quote=mooby;1285533]I disagree, I think the ACA has been weakened enough that Obama's main accomplishment is leading us out of one of the worst depressions this country has seen. But I fully expect every one of our conservatives here to disagree with me on that - they will probably say he didn't do nearly enough that a conservative president would've done.[/quote]

Wow…dismissing the ACA to the point of not calling it Obamacare. The legislation failed because it was unlawful. Yet I think how it remains now does serve a small minority who can afford it for healthcare. Obama did an ok job leading us out listening to treasury and getting a mostly already agreed bipartisan bailout package across the line. Dodd Frank did some good, but also some bad.

Look at this bullshit tax and spend package now Joe is failing to try to pass and look at the package then. Right now how many available jobs are there? You gotta be one dishonest person to think spending 4-6 trillion somehow is reasonable.

Obama will go down as the worst foreign policy/affairs president of my lifetime. It’s stunning how terrible he was…his strategy and what he caused was really something else.

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[quote=mooby;1285532]you done did it now g1. Get ready for the most epic speech lambasting the crooked left by chico that you're ever gonna read in your life.[/quote]
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d

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[quote=Giantone;1285512][url]https://news.yahoo.com/historians-rank-trump-near-bottom-140039129.html[/url]


Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10


Donald Trump is ranked near the bottom of all U.S. presidents by a group of historians, getting the lowest grades for leadership of any commander in chief who has served in the White House in the past 150 years.

The ratings of presidents on 10 leadership qualities, the fourth in a series conducted by C-SPAN, includes assessments by 142 historians and professional observers of the presidency.

The findings underscore the duality of Trump's standing, unprecedented among his fellow presidents. After his upset victory in 2016 and his defeat in 2020, historians hold him in the lowest regard of any president since soon after the Civil War. But he continues to be the face of the Republican Party and its most influential figure, and he is viewed as a potential contender for the GOP's presidential nomination in 2024.[/quote]

Potential quotes for Trump's POTUS book.

"Well, at least I'm not James Buchanon."

"In the business world being ranked top 41 is a significant accomplishment! Some say the greatest ranked top 41 ever!"

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285535]Wow…dismissing the ACA to the point of not calling it Obamacare. The legislation failed because it was unlawful. Yet I think how it remains now does serve a small minority who can afford it for healthcare. Obama did an ok job leading us out listening to treasury and getting a mostly already agreed bipartisan bailout package across the line. Dodd Frank did some good, but also some bad.

Look at this bullshit tax and spend package now Joe is failing to try to pass and look at the package then. Right now how many available jobs are there? You gotta be one dishonest person to think spending 4-6 trillion somehow is reasonable.

Obama will go down as the worst foreign policy/affairs president of my lifetime. It’s stunning how terrible he was…his strategy and what he caused was really something else.[/QUOTE]


Trump literally lost the trust of every ally we had and then jerked off just about every dictator in the world in plain sight man. Come on. Keep your foreign affairs talk in you maga hat.

Bidens plan? Takes money to make money Chico. It is that simple. As long as you put it in the right place, which isn’t billionaires pockets. But hey maybe we can just give trillions more to the corporations so they can trickle it down into their own slush funds? Biden is trying to help you, me , and the rest of the middle class. Your boy made the rich richer and then told them all as much like he was some hero.

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[quote=punch it in;1285538]Trump literally lost the trust of every ally we had and then jerked off just about every dictator in the world in plain sight man. Come on. Keep your foreign affairs talk in you maga hat.

Bidens plan? Takes money to make money Chico. It is that simple. As long as you put it in the right place, which isn’t billionaires pockets. But hey maybe we can just give trillions more to the corporations so they can trickle it down into their own slush funds? [B]Biden is trying to help you, me , and the rest of the middle class.[/B] Your boy made the rich richer and then told them all as much like he was some hero.[/quote]

This is the biggest stack of shit I've ever seen on this site. Punch, Biden doesn't give 1 fuck about you.

I can't believe you think this way.

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[quote=punch it in;1285538]Trump literally lost the trust of every ally we had and then jerked off just about every dictator in the world in plain sight man. Come on. Keep your foreign affairs talk in you maga hat.

Bidens plan? [B]Takes money to make money[/B] Chico. It is that simple. As long as you put it in the right place, which isn’t billionaires pockets. But hey maybe we can just give trillions more to the corporations so they can trickle it down into their own slush funds? Biden is trying to help you, me , and the rest of the middle class. Your boy made the rich richer and then told them all as much like he was some hero.[/quote]

Just an outstanding quote when talking tax money

Welp thankfully the White House put this out:

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-brags-about-saving-americans-16-cents-on-july-4-food-our-economic-plan-is-working[/url]

Just imagine if trump put out this…the White House saved you 16 cents this July 4th. Gtfo. They put this out as more analysts came aboard the price of oil will be back to $100 a barrel due to administration policies yesterday. You are paying more at the pump since Obama was in office.

Inflation will eat that stimmy all up by years end

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1285539]This is the biggest stack of shit I've ever seen on this site. Punch, Biden doesn't give 1 fuck about you.

I can't believe you think this way.[/QUOTE]


Last time I checked the middle class is a big chunk of votes SD, so if you think he isn’t looking out for the middle class you are wrong. And calling that belief “the biggest stack of shit “ you have ever seen on this site is comical. Biden has dealt with a lot of personal tragedy in his life, and yes he does care about people, but if you want to go with the tired old adage that he is a politician so he has no heart go for it.
You know what I can’t believe? That your comrade Chico comes on here talking about how Trump cares about America and you remain silent but this is the biggest stack of shit you have ever seen on this board? Um….ok. Im not even sure why I replied to your post actually……

Chico : Trump loves America, Trump is one of us, Trump will drain the swamp, Trump is doing this for you!
SD : good for sticking to your guns Chico, while all these guys in here come at you!

Punch : Biden cares about the middle class.
SD : This is the biggest stack of shit I have ever read on this board!

SD (in the same breath) : they all suck, Im not a Trumper.

Your reactions to different posts on here tell a different story……

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285540]Just an outstanding quote when talking tax money

Welp thankfully the White House put this out:

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-brags-about-saving-americans-16-cents-on-july-4-food-our-economic-plan-is-working[/url]

Just imagine if trump put out this…the White House saved you 16 cents this July 4th. Gtfo. They put this out as more analysts came aboard the price of oil will be back to $100 a barrel due to administration policies yesterday. You are paying more at the pump since Obama was in office.

Inflation will eat that stimmy all up by years end[/QUOTE]


You are being short sighted like your messiah, again I suppose trillions to the mega rich would make you happier?

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[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/[/url]

You are exactly the guy they are talking about that has no idea what he is talking about Chico. Lol.
Keep doing the bidding of your messiah and Putin to sew that discord Chico. Keep spreading misinformation until people storm the Capitol and kill cops because they believe the troll farms and their keyboard warriors….oh wait…

Please, for once, read the facts and apologize. Gas prices were on an extreme uptrend before Biden. It has everything to do with the pandemic, which your messiah helped perpetuate with his lies and lack of transparency- in essence Chico - your messiah has more to do with the prices than Biden. Taking your posts apart is like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.

Chico moves the goal posts in 3…2….

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[quote=punch it in;1285546][url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/[/url]

You are exactly the guy they are talking about that has no idea what he is talking about Chico. Lol.
Keep doing the bidding of your messiah and Putin to sew that discord Chico. Keep spreading misinformation until people storm the Capitol and kill cops because they believe the troll farms and their keyboard warriors….oh wait…

Please, for once, read the facts and apologize. Gas prices were on an extreme uptrend before Biden. It has everything to do with the pandemic, which your messiah helped perpetuate with his lies and lack of transparency- in essence Chico - your messiah has more to do with the prices than Biden. Taking your posts apart is like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.

Chico moves the goal posts in 3…2….[/quote]

If ignorance is bliss, chico's in effing heaven!!!

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[quote=punch it in;1285541]Last time I checked the middle class is a big chunk of votes SD, so if you think he isn’t looking out for the middle class you are wrong. And calling that belief “the biggest stack of shit “ you have ever seen on this site is comical. Biden has dealt with a lot of personal tragedy in his life, and yes he does care about people, but if you want to go with the tired old adage that he is a politician so he has no heart go for it.
You know what I can’t believe? That your comrade Chico comes on here talking about how Trump cares about America and you remain silent but this is the biggest stack of shit you have ever seen on this board? Um….ok. Im not even sure why I replied to your post actually……

Chico : Trump loves America, Trump is one of us, Trump will drain the swamp, Trump is doing this for you!
SD : good for sticking to your guns Chico, while all these guys in here come at you!

Punch : Biden cares about the middle class.
SD : This is the biggest stack of shit I have ever read on this board!

SD (in the same breath) : they all suck, Im not a Trumper.

Your reactions to different posts on here tell a different story……[/quote]

One of my best friends was in town last night and it was my other friends birthday. I was not sober. Biggest stack of shit was a drunk over-exaggeration. I blame the multiple jager shots.

I do disagree, but it's no where near the thing I disagree with the most ever.

They do all suck.

I wish everyone could move past every post somehow being Trump related. Whether I love him or hate him, I don't want to talk about him anymore, and especially at the amount we talk about him now.

We have plenty of people piling on Chico. Some of it, he brings on himself. But he seems to like it. I'm not going to pile on. You and G1 reply to Chico like it's a full time job, you don't need any more help.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1285552]One of my best friends was in town last night and it was my other friends birthday. I was not sober. Biggest stack of shit was a drunk over-exaggeration. I blame the multiple jager shots.

I do disagree, but it's no where near the thing I disagree with the most ever.

They do all suck.

I wish everyone could move past every post somehow being Trump related. Whether I love him or hate him, I don't want to talk about him anymore, and especially at the amount we talk about him now.

We have plenty of people piling on Chico. Some of it, he brings on himself. But he seems to like it. I'm not going to pile on. You and G1 reply to Chico like it's a full time job, you don't need any more help.[/QUOTE]


I figured alcohol was involved, was hoping it was. Hah. Anyway I will move past Trump when he is no longer relevant. On 7-2-21 he is, unfortunately, extremely relevant still….

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Everytime I voice an opinion that’s opposite of their position…the retort is “Chico is a trumptard”. I get it, don’t address the issue, just scream trump. personal attacks is what happens when positions can’t be argued or a person is a dick..But the latter isn’t the case on this board.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1285557]Everytime I voice an opinion that’s opposite of their position…the retort is “Chico is a trumptard”. I get it, don’t address the issue, just scream trump. personal attacks is what happens when positions can’t be argued or a person is a dick..But the latter isn’t the case on this board.[/QUOTE]


Oh please. Nobody is attacking you personally. I address plenty of issues. Believe i just did as far as gas prices. If you are going to champion the former President at all cost, and then grasp for straws to make the current one seem like the racist, or the friend of the wealthy, etc then Im going to call you out. I literally came back at you with an article addressing the issue you bought up and your reply is this? Seems to me you are playing the victim when you can’t address the issue, not that we are attacking you because we cannot address it?

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[quote=mooby;1285533]I disagree, I think Obamacare (just for you Chico) has been weakened enough that Obama's main accomplishment is leading us out of one of the worst depressions this country has seen. But I fully expect every one of our conservatives here to disagree with me on that - they will probably say he didn't do nearly enough that a conservative president would've done.[/quote]

The most important action was this bi-partisan bill (I think it was the last bipartisan bill for that matter on major legislation):

"....Bank Rescue of 2008, or the Great Recession
The 2007-08 Financial Crisis resulted in an unprecedented federal intervention to rescue banks and restore confidence to the finance sector. The chief culprit in the crisis was the implosion of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) and the collapse of the housing market that threatened many companies with insolvency. In the early days of the crisis, no one knew which companies were holding toxic assets and who would be next to falter. Lack of trust spread, with market participants unwilling to take on counterparty risk. As a result, companies were prevented from accessing credit to meet their liquidity needs.5

To address the crisis, Congress passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. The act created the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), which authorized the U.S. Department of the Treasury to buy up to $700 billion in toxic assets from companies, which could then replenish their balance sheets with safer assets.5

The Treasury Department was also authorized to buy up to $250 billion in bank shares, which would provide much-needed capital to financial institutions. It bought $20 billion in shares each from Bank of America (BAC) and Citigroup (C). The Treasury Department later sold those shares back for a profit. In total, the government provided $245.1 billion in TARP assistance to banks and recouped $275.6 billion, for an investment gain of $30.5 billion...."

[SIZE="2"]BTW this wasn't Obama although it was his treasury that executed the plan.[/SIZE]

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[quote=punch it in;1285559]Oh please. Nobody is attacking you personally. ....?[/quote]

Come on now nobody??? I think our local Giant fan only posts personal attacks on Chico.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1285563]Come on now nobody??? I think our local Giant fan only posts personal attacks on Chico.[/QUOTE]


Calling him a cult member isn’t a personal attack it is an observation. It is a cult, hence flying flags with his name etc, and defending him at all costs?

The party of “fuck your feelings “, “make liberals cry again 2020”, and who coined the phrase libtard is suddenly offended by being called a trumptard? What is the expression? Those who live in glass houses….

Political correctness is bullshit party but Trumptard is somehow over the line? LOL

Go to your safe space, snowflake….i could go on and on but I think you get the point. You align yourself with these animals and then you get upset about Trumptard and call it a personal attack?
Nah.

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[quote=punch it in;1285564]Calling him a cult member isn’t a personal attack it is an observation. It is a cult, hence flying flags with his name etc, and defending him at all costs?

The party of “fuck your feelings “, “make liberals cry again 2020”, and who coined the phrase libtard is suddenly offended by being called a trumptard? What is the expression? Those who live in glass houses….

Political correctness is bullshit party but Trumptard is somehow over the line? LOL

Go to your safe space, snowflake….i could go on and on but I think you get the point. You align yourself with these animals and then you get upset about Trumptard and call it a personal attack?
Nah.[/quote]

Ooooo, I must have pissed in your Wheaties. But yeah calling a specific poster a Trumptard, Libtard, drunken uncle or even a snowflake are personal attacks/insults in my book. Guess we hold to different definitions on this issue. Heck I don't even agree with Chico when it comes to Trump, but (in my limited experience here) it does seem to me that there are a lot more personal insults directed at him than come from him.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1285567]Ooooo, I must have pissed in your Wheaties. But yeah calling a specific poster a Trumptard, Libtard, drunken uncle or even a snowflake are personal attacks/insults in my book. Guess we hold to different definitions on this issue. Heck I don't even agree with Chico when it comes to Trump, but (in my limited experience here) it does seem to me that there are a lot more personal insults directed at him than come from him.[/QUOTE]


You read so much anger and passion in my post that you think you pissed in my wheaties? Lol. No offense but i do not get that emotional over your posts, or anybody’s for that matter. Too bad you cant really read emotions into posts on a message board.

As far as my pal Chico getting “insulted” more than he “insults” others I simply chalk that up to the Libtards have more posters in the political threads than the Trumptards do. So you’re probably correct.

Enjoy the weekend

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Edit: i was not calling you a snowflake or telling you to go to your safe space btw. It was not directed at you even sarcastically. I was simply pointing out things that Trump supporters have said to others in the past to prove a point, being that if you can dish it out you better be able to take it.
Like I said easy to take a post out of context. Im sure ive done it 1000 times myself.

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[quote=punch it in;1285569]......

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Edit: i was not calling you a snowflake or telling you to go to your safe space btw. It was not directed at you even sarcastically. I was simply pointing out things that Trump supporters have said to others in the past to prove a point, being that if you can dish it out you better be able to take it.
Like I said easy to take a post out of context. Im sure ive done it 1000 times myself.[/quote]


Yes that happens. You have a good 4th as well.

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[quote=nonniey;1285563]Come on now nobody??? I think our local Giant fan only posts personal attacks on Chico.[/quote]

Yes, I do. chico has over 27,000 post's I have over 10,000 and you have 138. Not an attack jus saying there is history you might not be privy to. He gets what he gives .

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[quote=Giantone;1285572]Yes, I do. chico has over 27,000 post's I have over 10,000 and you have 138. Not an attack jus saying there is history you might not be privy to. He gets what he gives .[/quote]

Yep in a later response I did acknowledge that (my limited knowledge of the background). The good thing about this site is the moderator doesn't stifle one side to the advantage of the other (unlike another site I could mention, heck a mod on that site has completely eliminated all views not of a particular bent and turned it into a poor mans version of Democratic Underground).