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Longtimefan 08-23-2006 12:17 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
There appear's to be serenois yet to unfold in this trade that remain highly speculative. The fact remains the incoming player is the most important, and the ONLY way we'll be able to determine whether the trade is good, bad or indifferent is whether we reach a deal with Duckett that will assure his presence here to justify a trade at all. There's no way I can beleive there's not some ongoing discussion in this regard as we speak, otherwise none of this will make any sense at all. When this trade has been announced as official, that's the only thing I want to see; what type deal Duckett gets with the Redskins, everything else is speculative. We all know that trading for a player, giving up draft choices to be here until the bidding war begins does not make a lot of sense.

gibbsisgod 08-23-2006 12:19 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
i agree, the redskins have not yet released a report that says we have him, atleast not one that i have seen. could it be because we are waiting to wrap him up long term?

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-23-2006 12:20 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
I just checked the team site and the trade is awaiting the passing of physicals.

illdefined 08-23-2006 12:23 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[QUOTE=Buster;207114]GREAT THINKING. You're right.

The Eagles are hopeless for 2006. Westbrook is hurt, so is Buckhalter, Moats isn't the answer and they have no RB depth, so they're looking at a fragile and old Stephen Davis. WRs for McNabb to throw to since they can't run the ball are a 2nd-year #1 WR in Reggie Brown, Pinkston and Hank Baskett. :)[/QUOTE]

hmm. i know they're in our division, but I don't think Betts would be such a loss to them except as a spy..anyone the Eagles have that we really really covet?

BigSKINBauer 08-23-2006 12:30 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
everytime i think of it i smile. Sellers and Duckett. What the f...? I say the league brings out a new rule for this dominance and lets both of them wear their number 45.

Seriously i wonder what number duckett will take on. Big mike is not changing his number.

Darrell_Green_28 08-23-2006 12:31 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;207132]That's right, I was one of the ones supporting giving Davis a look.......and for the record, I love the TJ move. Next year's 3rd rounder? Who cares? Chances are slim that you'd find a 3rd rounder next year with the ability of TJ.....and even then how does that help us THIS year? Trading 1st rounders in the worst case scenario? So what? I don't see Denver and the Skins finishing up all that far apart anyway. You're talking about maybe moving 5 or 6 positions.[/quote]

The way i understand, its not that we are swapping positions with them we will be outright giving them our first round pick if we end up with a worse record than the broncos.

BigSKINBauer 08-23-2006 12:34 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
look whats on Youtube.

BEAST- [url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=DvgQDM5433U]YouTube - T.J. Duckett Highlights[/url]
[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=JipVSFmRso0]YouTube - TJ Duckett 2004 "Aint Neva Scared"[/url]
[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=BaI8SelnOOw]YouTube - Tj Duckett "The Catch"[/url]
[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=qbp2mutjOqU]YouTube - TJ Duckett[/url]

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 12:36 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=BigSKINBauer;207148]everytime i think of it i smile. Sellers and Duckett. What the f...? I say the league brings out a new rule for this dominance and lets both of them wear their number 45.

Seriously i wonder what number duckett will take on. Big mike is not changing his number.[/quote]

He'll go back to his college number.
:cheeky-sm

[IMG]http://www.msu.edu/%7Educkettt/duckett380.jpg[/IMG]

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 12:38 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=BigSKINBauer;207151]look whats on Youtube.
[URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=BaI8SelnOOw"]YouTube - Tj Duckett "The Catch"[/URL]
[/quote]

Jeff Smoker beat my high school's football team in the district championship game. :Smoker:= :tongue

wilsowilso 08-23-2006 12:40 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
One thing is for sure. Nobody online anywhere has a got a clue as to what exactly we gave up in this trade. There are like 14 different reports. I've never seen anything quite like it. I guess we have to wait until they pass the physicals because the nfl web site just says we gave up a third which would be an amazing deal if you ask me.

SmootSmack 08-23-2006 12:41 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins

BigSKINBauer 08-23-2006 12:45 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=TAFKAS;207157]I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins[/quote]
I like the way you think. I really think Gibbs and Saunders sat down and thought this one through. Two offensive masterminds decided this is what we would need.

JET 08-23-2006 12:48 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=Darrell_Green_28;207150]The way i understand, its not that we are swapping positions with them we will be outright giving them our first round pick if we end up with a worse record than the broncos.[/quote]

You don't understand the deal.

Scenario 1: Redskins finish with a worse record than Broncos
Result: Broncos [B]swap[/B] first round picks with Skins (meaning they get ours, we get theirs), plus the Skins give Broncos a 2007 3rd.
Hypothetical situation, that I really really hope doesn't happen: Everything goes wrong for the Skins, they wind up with a top 10 draft pick. Everything goes right for Denver, they get the 32nd pick. Under this deal, Denver gets that top ten pick, Skins get the 32nd.

Scenario 2: Redskins finish with a better record than Broncos
Result: Skins give Broncos 2007 3rd and 2008 4th.

There is a bit more to the deal than that, but it's the simple version.

Monkeydad 08-23-2006 12:55 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
[quote=TAFKAS;207157]I don't know if this has been mentioned already. But Gibbs was an owner of the Falcons when they drafted Duckett. And while Gibbs wasn't very actively involved with the team I'm sure he got to see Duckett up close and personal several times in games and practices so he must have some sense of what TJ can do for the Skins[/quote]

Well, only a 5% owner...

Look at this snippet I found. Scary to think he could be coaching the Falcons now. Thanks for the loyalty, Coach Gibbs.

From Wikipedia:
[QUOTE]
In 2002, Gibbs and a small group of investors bought five percent of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons"]Atlanta Falcons[/URL] from owner, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Blank"]Arthur Blank[/URL] for $27 million[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gibbs#_note-2"][3][/URL]. It wasn't until late 2003 when Gibbs really started to catch the football fever again. Arthur Blank and his general manager, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_McKay"]Rich McKay[/URL] quickly interviewed him for the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons"]Falcons[/URL]'s vacant head coaching position due to the firing of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Reeves"]Dan Reeves[/URL]. However when Gibbs found out that [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Spurrier"]Steve Spurrier[/URL] resigned as the Redskins' head coach, they realized that even though Gibbs was one of the team's minority owners, his loyalty still lies with the Redskins[/QUOTE]

SmootSmack 08-23-2006 01:01 PM

Re: We traded for T.J. Duckett?
 
Don't go knocking my posts down with stats Buster! :boxing: (sorry I just felt like using that)

by the way, today at 2:30pm on ESPN2 you can watch the Washington Redskins 2005 Yearbook (and don't forget the World Sport Stacking Championships at 2pm on ESPN)


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