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[quote=SmootSmack;609030]He took it from Chris Mortenson, who speculated a few weeks ago that he could see that combination returning together to the NFL. My thought on that is is each would command a lot of money so really only two teams would make such a bid...Dallas or Washington.

I wouldn't be opposed to Holmgren as President. I don't think his problem in Seattle was so much his personnel acumen it was handling that and coaching, if he just does one that would be ok I think.[/quote]


Agreed. They would command 10Million+. Granted its not our money. Mike wore too many hats, but was actually drafting decent. He was just not giving all the time he needed to coaching.

Him and Gruden would be my first choice. Actually Dan selling is first but that will never happen.

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I could handle Gruden/Holmgren or Gruden/Bruce Allen. As long as there isn't a Vinny squeezed in there.

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[quote=SmootSmack;607865]Make Holmgren the President, Jerry Gray HC, and Turner Gill OC!!!!!

:)

I just hope we do our research, I mean really do our research...as in Shanahan is not a good judge of talent (or character)[/quote]

Who would run the defense, Gray? could he handle dual roles..

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It really sucks when we have a 13 page thread on Jon Gruden being the HC when it is only week 6 and all of this is purely speculative. I had some pretty high expectations this year. As did so many others on this site. Now we are the Raiders. Uggg. I hate being a Skins fan at times. Danny boy fire Vinny. You have to fire the slug at this point. Start over in the FO then let them work their way down to next years coaches and then to the players. Something tells me this Redskin Team next year is not going to resemble much of what is here right now.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;609067]It really sucks when we have a 13 page thread on Jon Gruden being the HC when it is only week 6 and all of this is purely speculative. I had some pretty high expectations this year. As did so many others on this site. Now we are the Raiders. Uggg. I hate being a Skins fan at times. Danny boy fire Vinny. You have to fire the slug at this point. Start over in the FO then let them work their way down to next years coaches and then to the players. Something tells me this Redskin Team next year is not going to resemble much of what is here right now.[/quote]

You are probably right, but the win/loss record just might resemble what we have right now.

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I cannot believe DS has the cajones to keep plugging away with the current front office structure when not a single good SB winning coach wants to come to DC. I mean, when is he going to realize the onus is on him? or is he that clueless?

Re: Sources: Gruden the front runner
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;609067]It really sucks when we have a 13 page thread on Jon Gruden being the HC when it is only week 6 and all of this is purely speculative. I had some pretty high expectations this year. As did so many others on this site. Now we are the Raiders. Uggg. I hate being a Skins fan at times. Danny boy fire Vinny. You have to fire the slug at this point. Start over in the FO then let them work their way down to next years coaches and then to the players. Something tells me this Redskin Team next year is not going to resemble much of what is here right now.[/quote]

Honestly I actually hope it doesn't. I wish we could get rid of all the high priced primidana's, and get rid of the coach's stuck in their old ways. Bring in new coach's ....NFL qualified coach's ...and start rebuilding a young, healthy, fast team.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;609089]I cannot believe DS has the cajones to keep plugging away with the current front office structure when not a single good SB winning coach wants to come to DC. I mean, when is he going to realize the onus is on him? [B]or is he that clueless?[/[/B]quote]

Elvis was, Michael Jackson was, and several other millionairs, billionairs. They get yes men to hang around them and protect them from societies negative influences.

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[quote=redsk1;609051]I could handle Gruden/Holmgren or Gruden/Bruce Allen. As long as there isn't a Vinny squeezed in there.[/quote]

I don't think anyone's hungry for a Vinny Sandwich but the menu choices are sparse at best :oink:

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[quote=SBXVII;608957]I checked with my man again and he said he heard it while watching "Washington Post live." If that helps at all.

Again it could all be rumor's and we all know how someone starts it and it will bounce between fans and media for weeks. I was just wondering if anyone else heard this or to clarify exactly what was said.[/quote]

Not ESPN reporting...now I give it a little more credibility.

That scenario would be incredible.

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The season's not over yet you got to have faith. On another note please not Gruden don't like him.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;609316]The season's not over yet you got to have faith. On another note please not Gruden don't like him.[/quote]

Hogwash! The season was over before it began. This is at best / miracle, an 8-8 season. I think what you were getting at is that Gruden's players don't like him. Well that's too effing bad. That's exactly what we need, someone who will bench these little nancies or send them to the showers.

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I don't know if Gruden is the right coach for the Redskins. Even though he won a superbowl with Tampa Bay, in the the last few years with the Bucs, the quarterback position there brought uncertainty to the offense and the team. This is the opposite of what the redskins need right now.

Shanaghan and Cowher are coaches that may be better suited for the redskins especially considering the team's current situation. They are different from one another in their coaching and offensive style of play, but both should bring in a better ground game and more than likely solidify the offensive line.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;609316]The season's not over yet you got to have faith. On another note please not Gruden don't like him.[/quote]

It's over as far as playoffs are concerned. Not gonna catch NY and we already have 3 conference losses.

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[quote=warriorzpath;609370]I don't know if Gruden is the right coach for the Redskins. Even though he won a superbowl with Tampa Bay, in the the last few years with the Bucs, the quarterback position there brought uncertainty to the offense and the team. This is the opposite of what the redskins need right now.

Shanaghan and Cowher are coaches that may be better suited for the redskins especially considering the team's current situation. They are different from one another in their coaching and offensive style of play, but both should bring in a better ground game and more than likely solidify the offensive line.[/quote]

You know, whether it's Gruden, Holmgren, Shanahan, or even Armstrong, I'm not going to complain. What this team needs is a proven winner who commands respect and demands 110% effort and accountability.

Also I think the front office needs a strong minded HC who knows personnel in this league. If we can't get Vinny outta there and a real GM in place, let's at least get a HC who has been around the block when it comes to building a team.