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Ruhskins 03-03-2010 04:50 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Lotus;668469]Yes, that is true. But it seems to me that good teams like the Colts try to minimize such dynamics, where other teams do not.[/quote]

How are the Colts doing this?

Lotus 03-03-2010 05:00 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?

Ruhskins 03-03-2010 05:06 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Lotus;668476]Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?[/quote]

Yes, but you made it sound like the Colts were doing something different now with these new rules due to the upcoming uncapped year. Right now throughout the league a lot of players are getting screwed by these rules that come into effect because of the uncapped year, and I don't think many teams have renegotiated deals, instead they are tendering their players.

Pocket$ $traight 03-03-2010 05:07 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Lotus;668476]Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?[/quote]

The Colts also have two things that most teams do not have, a good if not very good line and arguably the best Quarterback ever.

Ruhskins 03-03-2010 05:08 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;668484]The Colts also have two things that most teams do not have, a good if not very good line and arguably the best Quarterback ever.[/quote]

Yes, but this has nothing to do with what is going on right now with players getting tendered because of the new rules due to the upcoming uncapped season. Antoine Bethea just got tendered by the Colts.

Speaking of tenders, the Dolphins just gave Ronnie Brown a first round tender:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4962803]Sources: Miami Dolphins tender running back Ronnie Brown - ESPN[/url]

Lotus 03-03-2010 05:11 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;668481]Yes, but you made it sound like the Colts were doing something different now with these new rules due to the upcoming uncapped year. Right now throughout the league a lot of players are getting screwed by these rules that come into effect because of the uncapped year, and I don't think many teams have renegotiated deals, instead they are tendering their players.[/quote]

I'm sorry, it is my bad if I made it sound like the Colts were doing something different with the new rules. I was talking about general organizational philosophies. Sorry.

CRedskinsRule 03-03-2010 05:12 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
I tell ya, Schefter is the guy on tweeter in regards to tenders:

[QUOTE]Adam_Schefter

Redskins put originial comp. low tender on CB Carlos Rogers -- $1.542 million. Any team that signs him must give Redskins a 1. Won't happen[/QUOTE]

CRedskinsRule 03-03-2010 05:13 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
and ...
[QUOTE]Adam_Schefter

Redskins will not tender late-season standout RB Quinton Ganther, so he's free agent.[/QUOTE]

Ruhskins 03-03-2010 05:15 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
I'm surprised by Ronnie Brown, I figured he'd get a 1st and 3rd tender. I guess there are questions about his durability?

GTripp0012 03-03-2010 05:26 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
The draft is too deep to actually make this move, but Leon Washington is incredibly enticing at the cost of a second rounder.

Pocket$ $traight 03-03-2010 05:27 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;668485]Yes, but this has nothing to do with what is going on right now with players getting tendered because of the new rules due to the upcoming uncapped season. Antoine Bethea just got tendered by the Colts.

Speaking of tenders, the Dolphins just gave Ronnie Brown a first round tender:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4962803"]Sources: Miami Dolphins tender running back Ronnie Brown - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

I realize that. I was commenting on how the Colts can get away with the approach of building from within. They are above average in talent evaluation so when they draft someone, they can typically count on them to fit. And when you can pencil in 28 points a game, you can be more patient in other areas.

tryfuhl 03-03-2010 05:28 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;668418]We need to give up the 1st rounder and try and make a run at this punk.[/quote]

ummm no

GTripp0012 03-03-2010 05:29 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
Hank Fraley released, which adds a legit name to the center's market, if not a half-decent football player.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/fraley-gets-his-walking-papers/]Fraley gets his walking papers | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

SFREDSKIN 03-03-2010 05:31 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=ChickenMonkey;668449]Is there any news on Carlos Rogers being tendered???[/quote]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4962516]Jason Campbell gets first-round tender from Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url]

tryfuhl 03-03-2010 05:33 PM

re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=GTripp0012;668497]The draft is too deep to actually make this move, but Leon Washington is incredibly enticing at the cost of a second rounder.[/quote]
I can follow that


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