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tryfuhl 06-22-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
I didn't really focus on his play either. In looking at some stats he did give up 8 sacks.. 2 short of being tied for first.. maybe there's more than what the stats are showing, I'd have to go back and look but if someone else has analysis that'd be great

either way, not our problem :) I think that it had more to do with Brown apparently not being as positive in the locker room, one year left on contract, and coming off of injury.. made sense for them to unload him now

Dirtbag59 06-22-2010 02:30 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
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skinsnut 06-22-2010 02:39 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
Looking at a position upgrade year over year...this is possibly our best positional improvement of the offseason....even including Trent and Donovan.

Donovan is a much better leader...but marginally better statistically, Trent is a rookie and will struggle year 1.

To think that we got the top draft OT and an probowl OT for a 1st and a 3rd (or 4th) is AWESOME.
[B]2 starting OT's in the same offseason?...that is like hitting the JACKPOT[/B] ...I was willing to settle on Flozel Adams out of necessity.

12thMan 06-22-2010 04:03 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
Considering we lost two games alone by our field kicker and maybe another two or three from Zorn's horrible coaching, I think it's reasonable to think the Skins can go 10-6 this year.

mlmdub130 06-22-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
[quote=12thMan;708184]Considering we lost two games alone by our field kicker and maybe another two or three from Zorn's horrible coaching, I think it's reasonable to think the Skins can go 10-6 this year.[/quote]

:drink :doh:

MTK 06-22-2010 05:09 PM

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[quote=12thMan;708184]Considering we lost two games alone by our field kicker and maybe another two or three from Zorn's horrible coaching, I think it's reasonable to think the Skins can go 10-6 this year.[/quote]

Sure, why the heck not?

artmonkforhallofamein07 06-22-2010 06:38 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
Yeah I think we could have a chance to contend for the division this year. We have done alot in the off season to improve this team drastically this fall.

As long as we stay healthy we have some weapons and some good talent here in ol dc again.

GTripp0012 06-22-2010 06:43 PM

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[quote=12thMan;708184]Considering we lost two games alone by our field kicker and maybe another two or three from Zorn's horrible coaching, I think it's reasonable to think the Skins can go 10-6 this year.[/quote]We probably will win 9 or 10 games...if we've actually been able to purge all the poor players and coaches from our team.

Suisham was something like 21/24 on the season. If he goes 22/24, we do win the Saints game, but if Gano goes something like 17/25, maybe we lose two games like that and finish 6-10. Because of the situation around that awful kick (game is effectively over if a 19 yd kick goes through), I'm not going to argue that we'll lose more games, but we'll probably lose a few points over last year unless we can score more TDs.

Getting rid of Zorn/Blache can't hurt on gamedays. I have no qualms of a Shanahan/Shanahan/Haslett power trio being outschemed by the coaches in our division, which is nice, but taking years off of the legs of Portis and Larry Johnson, and making Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly sound route runners who flash good hands is probably beyond the realm of coaching.

On the other hand, getting Santana Moss to act like a professional football player and not a big-man-on-campus is probably easily teachable.

Dirtbag59 06-22-2010 06:53 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;708217]Sure, why the heck not?[/quote]

The schedule could end up being brutal this year. Nowhere near as easy as last year. Now I'm not saying that we can't make the playoffs, far from it. However we can't go around plugging this team into last years schedule.

[COLOR=Blue][B]Colts [/B][/COLOR]are still an elite team.

[B][COLOR=SeaGreen]Green Bay[/COLOR][/B], [COLOR=Purple][B]Minnesota[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B]Dallas [/B][/COLOR]are still likely to be very good teams however each of them has the chance to fall off (Farve going back to bad habits, Rodgers staying healthy, The Dallas O-Line).

[B][COLOR=Navy]New York [/COLOR][/B]and [COLOR=Indigo][B]Tennessee [/B][/COLOR]are all very likely to rebound after medicore seasons last year.

[COLOR=Red][B]Houston[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=DarkGreen][B]Jacksonville[/B][/COLOR], [COLOR=Navy][B]Chicago[/B][/COLOR], and [COLOR=Green][B]Philly [/B][/COLOR]can go either way but at the very least they're all going to be tough to play.

[B][COLOR=Blue]Detroit[/COLOR][/B], [COLOR=Navy][B]St. Louis[/B][/COLOR], and [COLOR=DarkRed][B]Tampa [/B][/COLOR]should all be easy wins, though if Stafford develops they'll be dangerous.

Our last two games are against the Giants and Jaguars, two teams that will probably not be in a position to rest their starters.

Compare this to last year. Oakland, St. Louis, Tampa, Kansas City, Detroit, and Week 17 San Diego should all have been easy games. That's 6 games last year compared to 3 this year. Then you had Carolina who was also struggling. The Giants were in a slump the second time we played them.

So again, not impossible to make the playoffs but like I said before, you can't take this years team and plug it into last years schedule. The average level of opponents is much higher this time around.

GTripp0012 06-22-2010 06:54 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
[quote=tryfuhl;708123]I didn't really focus on his play either. In looking at some stats he did give up 8 sacks.. 2 short of being tied for first.. maybe there's more than what the stats are showing, I'd have to go back and look but if someone else has analysis that'd be great

either way, not our problem :) I think that it had more to do with Brown apparently not being as positive in the locker room, one year left on contract, and coming off of injury.. made sense for them to unload him now[/quote]Well, one of the very few tackles in the league that would make Jamaal Brown look like a plus pass blocker is Artis Hicks, so...good for us!

I think his move to the right side is what's really going to make this a plus move for us. He's a good run blocker, at least according to the Pro Football Focus numbers for 2007 [URL="http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2008&page=5&surn=B&playerid=2230"]and 2008[/URL]. And though the Shanahan system is light on screens (especially compared to Zorn), his quickness on the right side gives us even more flexibility.

ethat001 06-22-2010 06:59 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;708256]
On the other hand, getting Santana Moss to act like a professional football player and not a [U]big-man-on-campus[/U] is probably easily teachable.[/quote]

<grin>

Interesting choice of words, considering how the only two players that are smaller than Moss on our ~80 man roster are Justin Tryon (5'9") and Brandon Banks (5'7")....

Mechanix544 06-23-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;707806]Would you sign Mawae? Old but solid talent.[/quote]

Been saying the above forever. If we are intent on winning now, I dont see why we woldn't sign this guy. The price isn't too bad...........and I think we could squeeze this season and next out of him. Guys a beast and in very good shape. Getting to the probowl at his age???? He is a specimen.

We should start a SIGN Kevin Mawae movement. Casey would be a good backup, but a starter???????

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH...........

Lets go BA and MS >>>>>>>>SIGN MAWAE and WIN NOW!!!!!

MTK 06-23-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
Not sure what the fascination with Mawae is. Someone posted OL efficiency ratings a while ago and I think he rated out pretty poorly last year. We've already got an average center in Rabach. Mawae really isn't an upgrade at this point in his career.

tryfuhl 06-23-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
[quote=skinsnut;708151]Looking at a position upgrade year over year...this is possibly our best positional improvement of the offseason....even including Trent and Donovan.

Donovan is a much better leader...but marginally better statistically, Trent is a rookie and will struggle year 1.

To think that we got the top draft OT and an probowl OT for a 1st and a 3rd (or 4th) is AWESOME.
[B]2 starting OT's in the same offseason?...that is like hitting the JACKPOT[/B] ...I was willing to settle on Flozel Adams out of necessity.[/quote]

I was just thinking last night about the people wanting Flozell and then several of us saying let's wait and see what might pan out. Flozell would be a guy I'd only pull in if someone went down late in the off/preseason

CultBrennan59 06-24-2010 01:39 AM

Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown
 
In order for us to be a contender in the playoffs, we need a #1 WR (Vincent Jackson or TO would fit that description), a solid, healthy NT, to back up and/or challenge Kemo, who Wants to be here, a Proven FS, a solid backup 3-4 MLB, and a back up corner (3rd or 4th corner) in case Barnes doesn't do well. Maybe we could thrown in a RB with speed who is young, and healthy.


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