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[quote=Ruhskins;860038]Bingo. Honestly, I think a lot of people are riding Shanahan's reputation to justify his mistakes.[/quote]

Or maybe in a wider perspective, the mistakes are simply the result of little too much delusion and a coach being a coach(win at all costs). He is going through mental purging right now and probably has smelled the flowers. He has no choice but engage in a rebuild or suffer even more of his own personal embarassment(shutout, 5 losses in a row). If his ego is as big as it is, the wounds must be critical now and he would finally be motivated to build this team the right way. I'm willing to give him a chance to do that, and hopefully he does do that.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

I am a broken record on this topic but identify and draft the franchise QB in April AT ANY COST. There is no more time to sit back and hope one falls from the sky...Make it happen!

I would also resign Laron Landry & Fletcher assuming the deals are reasonable.

I would go after Vincent Jackson(unless he is franchised)...we need a #1 WR to help our young QB and we can't afford to just project one of our young players into that role.

Add 2 new OL to the mix. Our season went to hell when Lichtensteiger went down. Losing one Guard should not destroy your offense. It's clear we have no depth there.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;860064]Or maybe in a wider perspective, the mistakes are simply the result of little too much delusion and a coach being a coach(win at all costs). He is going through mental purging right now and probably has smelled the flowers. [B]He has no choice but engage in a rebuild[/B] or suffer even more of his own personal embarassment(shutout, 5 losses in a row). If his ego is as big as it is, the wounds must be critical now and he would finally be motivated to build this team the right way. I'm willing to give him a chance to do that, and hopefully he does do that.[/quote]

In his defense, I think much of what's been done already is a rebuild, other than the McNabb trade. I think we should give him more credit for foresight than we do. He was out of coaching for a year & had a lot of time to study. He knew this team was a mess, a lot of that has changed even if we're not seeing wins.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;860028]I'll be honest if he wasn't MS then I'd be calling for a new coach, some of his decisions have just been down right stupid..

1. Trade JC
2. Trade for DM
3. Bring in Rex for DM
(Trade DM and don't draft a QB?)
4. Talk up Beck like he's the starter
5. Start Rex instead
6. Bench Rex for Beck
7. Bench Beck for Rex

ALL IN A 1 1/2 year span

WTF Dude????[/quote]

1. A lot of people thought we should trade JC and JC was on the block well before Shannhy showed up
2. Didn't mind that but there should have been a move to develop someone
3. I don't know that he brought him in for DM, but as mentioned in #2, there should be someone they could develop
4. I don't think he ever hyped Beck up publically as much as others did
5. Staring Rex over Beck is always the right move
6 and 7. QB Shuffling is historically par for the course here, even in our best years

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[YT]_C8F0cWvAfo[/YT]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;860041]Yeah I mean hes a 2 time SB Champ but.... His tenure wont last much longer with these kinds of mistakes[/quote]

His last few years in Denver were not real good and that's why he got fired. But I hope Snyder doesn't fire the guy. We need some stability around here. But I would not have him doing personel anymore cause he's proven that he can't get in done in that area. Let the scouts do their job.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SmootSmack;860069]1. A lot of people thought we should trade JC and JC was on the block well before Shannhy showed up
2. Didn't mind that but there should have been a move to develop someone
3. I don't know that he brought him in for DM, but as mentioned in #2, there should be someone they could develop
4. I don't think he ever hyped Beck up publically as much as others did
5. Staring Rex over Beck is always the right move
6 and 7. QB Shuffling is historically par for the course here, even in our best years[/quote]

Yeah
#1- I think we as fans were tired of JC as well. Atleast I was and still am.
#4- I wonder what exactly Beck was told cause I think it was more Beck hyping himself prior to the season saying he would be the starter.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

On a side note I thought this was an interesting Mock 2012 Draft....

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Peter-Schrager-Midseason-NFL-Mock-Draft-111411"]Peter Schrager's 2012 NFL Mock Draft: Who to watch at the midseason point - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/URL]

[QUOTE]
[B]6. [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/washington-redskins/67062"][COLOR=#265970]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/URL]: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma:[/B] Redskins fans would be awfully happy to see Jones slip to the sixth pick. After passing on selecting [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/christian-ponder/1268618"][B][COLOR=#265970]Christian Ponder[/COLOR][/B][/URL], [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/blaine-gabbert/1268607"][B][COLOR=#265970]Blaine Gabbert[/COLOR][/B][/URL] and [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/andy-dalton/1268786"][B][COLOR=#265970]Andy Dalton[/COLOR][/B][/URL] last April, and opting to head into the season with a [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/rex-grossman/140445"][B][COLOR=#265970]Rex Grossman[/COLOR][/B][/URL]/[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/john-beck/469585"][B][COLOR=#265970]John Beck[/COLOR][/B][/URL] two-headed creature at quarterback, Mike Shanahan would grab Jones if he’s still on the board come April. A 6-4, 240-pound three-year starter with perhaps the best arm in this year’s draft class, some pundits are higher on Jones than both Luck and Barkley.
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Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q_w0LJNm3E]Landry Jones 2010 Highlights - YouTube[/url]

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

Again I'd be shocked if LJ came out

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aM6Nq2gPh8]Landry Jones vs Texas 2011 - YouTube[/url]

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;860105]Again I'd be shocked if LJ came out[/quote]

I'm not a college fan so I'm guessing he's got another year of college or more?

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

they have Blackmon at 2, wheres my boy Quake now?

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;860071][YT]_C8F0cWvAfo[/YT][/quote]

They should totally go after this [url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orleans-saints/09000d5d8216c9ee/Chase-Daniel-25-yard-pass]guy[/url]

I still miss him every time I see our QB play :(

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SmootSmack;860117]They should totally go after this [URL="http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orleans-saints/09000d5d8216c9ee/Chase-Daniel-25-yard-pass"]guy[/URL]

I still miss him every time I see our QB play :([/quote]Great fit for KS's system, quick reads, high accuracy is a must. Guy has both, no question...if only he cracked 5' 10".