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GridIron26 01-29-2012 07:50 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;880019]If we pass on Griffin at #6 then Mike Shanahan is officially a freakin moron.[/quote]

Not exactly... Even Irsay said that this QB duo can be compared to Manning & Leaf draft. Everybody thought Leaf is destined to stardom, just like Manning was.. If Shanny passes Griffin on through draft and then Griffin turned out to be a bust - Shanny will be genius. It is better to wait and see what Shanny's plan is and how it turns out before we call for his head, or name calling in this situation.

Higskin 01-29-2012 07:52 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=alpineONE;880025]I have been "tuning in" to the Warpath for nearly 10+ years though not posting. This marks my first post.

I'm pretty excited about the prospect of picking up Bradford.

...I recall that Snyder was really keen on Bradford his draft year, and that the Skins brought him in to work him out...but as I recall he was simply ...out of reach.

Anybody else seem to remember how keen Snyder seemed to be about Bradford?[/quote]

I know Snyder and Shanny were the only other team, besides Rams, to entertain Bradford at a pre-draft dinner. They apparently all hit if off according to Bradford.

BTW - been "tuning in" here as well and this thread tipped the scales for me too! Now, if I could only get to 10 posts so I can include links...LOL

NC_Skins 01-29-2012 07:53 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=alpineONE;880025]I have been "tuning in" to the Warpath for nearly 10+ years though not posting. This marks my first post.

I'm pretty excited about the prospect of picking up Bradford.

...I recall that Snyder was really keen on Bradford his draft year, and that the Skins brought him in to work him out...but as I recall he was simply ...out of reach.

Anybody else seem to remember how keen Snyder seemed to be about Bradford?[/quote]

Welcome aboard! Please take this time to fasten your seat belt and make sure your seat is back and folding trays are in their full upright position at all times. Enjoy your flight. :cool-smil


I don't recall hearing a peep from Snyder in regards to Bradford. Shanahan on the other hand must have loved Bradford to have wanted to jump from #4 to #1.

tryfuhl 01-29-2012 08:07 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=irish;879839]Interesting idea and I think a good one. Kyle Shannahan was on the Andy Sheehan/Thom Loverro show in DC on Friday and he said there was no way the Skins were going to give away the farm to get a QB. He said QB was one of many holes the Skins need to fill. It sounds like he thinks the team really needs a few playmakers. His most telling stat to this point was the number of passes thrown by the QB and run in for a TD was zero.[/quote]

Well.. we had two.. Helu screen/hurdle.. and Banks to Moss.. then again Banks isn't a "QB" and Helu isn't a WR... either way it's sad though

TenandSix:Unacceptable 01-29-2012 08:21 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=GTripp0012;879952]There are plenty of constants that aren't QB play within this organization. And really, the years of bad QB play over the last 20 years were pretty much (with obvious exception to 2004) contained to the Schottenheimer/Spurrier years, and now the Shanahan years. You've had your bad quarterbacks: Shuler, Wuerffel, that one Ramsey/Brunell season, Grossman, Beck. But it's not like the quarterback play has been consistently bad. That doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Turner and Gibbs/Zorn didn't have any issue solving the quarterback position. In fact, the coaches who did have trouble are infamous for their bad QB decisions in Washington.

Only two franchises in the last 20 hasn't endured a period of bad quarterback play: New England, who went right from Bledsoe to Brady (and even Brady had a lean year or two), and Green Bay, who went right from Favre to Rodgers. For 30 other teams, they've had the same kind of issue with quarterabcks the Redskins have had with quarterbacks. The Cowboys hardly went right from Aikman to Romo, they suffered through Chad Hutchinson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, and Bledsoe. Teams like the Lions and Bears have actually had it far worse.

Complaining about the QB situation is old and tiring. Sure, Shanahan gutted the roster and hasn't offered a viable solution. I get that. I have been critical of him for doing that. It's not like there aren't guys out there who can play the position well who can be acquired easily if Andrew Luck proves too elusive. It's obvious to me at least that there are much bigger issues with this organization that were causing us many losses even before Shanahan got here. Those issues have not been fixed.[/quote]

Your opinion is usually spot on or at the very least plausible.

But you think saying the Redskins' quarterback situation has been abysmal the last two decades [I]doesn't hold up under scrutiny[/I]?

Bwahahahahahaaa!

tryfuhl 01-29-2012 08:27 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=theJBexperience;880027]To get the rumor mill rolling again, I heard Bob Kravitz of The Indianapolis Star(the guy who did the Peyton Manning interview where he revealed he was unhappy w/ the Colts and paved the way for his release) on the Lebatard Show, and Kravitz gave the Skins a 25% chance of signing Peyton once he's released. He said DC was intriguing to Peyton because he remembers what Shanahan was able to with Elway late in his career, and of course, Peyton wants to go out on top with one last Super Bowl victory. Kravitz said there was an equal chance for us, the Cardinals, the Seahawks, and the Dolphins to land Peyton.[/quote]

My math makes that 20%

tryfuhl 01-29-2012 08:28 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=alpineONE;880025]I have been "tuning in" to the Warpath for nearly 10+ years though not posting. This marks my first post.

I'm pretty excited about the prospect of picking up Bradford.

...I recall that Snyder was really keen on Bradford his draft year, and that the Skins brought him in to work him out...but as I recall he was simply ...out of reach.

Anybody else seem to remember how keen Snyder seemed to be about Bradford?[/quote]

Welcome to the board.. well.. welcome to posting anyways

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-29-2012 08:31 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Smoot.. speaking on Peyton Manning. If he is healthy would there be interest from the Redskins?

Could he be a guarded secret around the franchise?

SmootSmack 01-29-2012 08:44 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;880038]Smoot.. speaking on Peyton Manning. If he is healthy would there be interest from the Redskins?

Could he be a guarded secret around the franchise?[/quote]

I would be inclined to say probably not. I know of two key decision makers who don't like the idea. That's not to say they can't be convinced otherwise but right now I'd say no

And welcome to the long time readers, first time posters

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-29-2012 08:50 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Smoot question: I know Shanny doesn't draft RBs first round but how does he feel about Trent Richardson?

skinsfanthru&thru 01-29-2012 09:08 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=tryfuhl;880036]My math makes that 20%[/quote]

1 out of 4= 25% ;)

What day exactly does the league office open for the new year and free agency and trades can occur?

SmootSmack 01-29-2012 09:10 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880044]Smoot question: I know Shanny doesn't draft RBs first round but how does he feel about Trent Richardson?[/quote]

Havent heard anything

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-29-2012 09:10 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Thanks. I could def see why the execs and others would not be enamored with Manning

Arm strength and his quick release could be long term issues with the recovery from the injury. We all know he has a great head for the game and an impressive work ethic, but can that overcome possible physical skill in decline as well as lingering injury issues with him. Remember this was the guy who never missed a game in his career, but that has all changed now. He may not even be cleared to play again. It also may be a possibility that people around the league don't believe he will ever be able to recover or have a deeper understanding than we do of what is really going on with his neck.

I wish him the best unless the Cowboys give him a shot then he can go to hell. lol

That would be a real kick in the nuts if he went on the play for the Boys and won another SB.. could totally see JJ signing him in a NY minute. I am somewhat surprised that they have not shown any interest, I could see them being a sleeper team in the whole PM deal.

NC_Skins 01-29-2012 09:11 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;880056]1 out of 4= 25% ;)

What day exactly does the league office open for the new year and free agency and trades can occur?[/quote]

March 13th.

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-29-2012 09:19 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Eli on Peyton: "He is going to do everything he can to get back." per half time interview done by Bob Costas during the Pro Bowl. In listening to the tone of Eli's voice and words spoken it does not sound like Peyton is any where near being ready to play or even close to a point where he would be able to. There was also some doubt in his voice in talking about Peyton ever being healthy enough to play again.

BTW : The pro bowl is such a joke. Talking heads on the radio keep talking about how to create more interest in the game, start by letting them actually play football. The game is a joke. There will never be interest in this game, it does not resemble a real NFL game and it never will. The sport is to violent and the players don't feel a need to go out there and try and fight each other.


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