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Hail to the SteelSkins 12-04-2012 11:31 AM

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This was a great and much need division win. That puts us currently at 3 / 1 vs Division opponents. Unfortunately the Bryce Brown fumble made the Cowpukes 3 and 2 in the division.

I just hope we can shut out the last two division games and end 5 / 1 in the division.... That would make my year.

53Fan 12-04-2012 11:34 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;970801]I think part of the reason the secondary struggles is because the total lack of pass rush. Williams was beaten last night a few times, Eli just missed some open wr's. But Jackson, Bowen, Cofield, Jenkins, Kerrigan...they simply can't get to the QB. They're solid against the run but they CAN NOT rush the passer. We give up yards but I'll take holding NY to 16 points every time. The D did more than did their job last night. However, if Eli hits a few, today is a totally different story.[/quote]

I had posted earlier in the week that I had expected Jackson to have more sacks this year but didn't know if it was him or the way Haslett was using him. They ran some stunts in the second half and Jackson got a sack. I agree with you. Eli had time to take a nap back there at times and you can only cover a guy so long. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us try to get a pass rushing lineman next year. In fact we really need one. I really thought Jenkins would turn out to be that guy and he still may. But Haslett needs to come up with something this year. Our secondary needs all the help they can get.

SFREDSKIN 12-04-2012 11:44 AM

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Daniel Snyder said it best:[B] "I hate those Mother****ers"!!![/B]

los panda 12-04-2012 11:47 AM

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it seems like the only thing that can stop our offense is rain

HailGreen28 12-04-2012 11:50 AM

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[quote=Lotus;970820]Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle![/quote]
should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?

Ruhskins 12-04-2012 11:56 AM

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[quote=HailGreen28;970827]should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?[/quote]

Fire up the billboards on the side of the bus!

firstdown 12-04-2012 12:04 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;970812]The entire team from the coaches on down have turned things around significantly the past three weeks. Or did they? How much of it is just better execution? How much of this was all part of the plan Shanahan talked about even this summer of developing RG3 gradually? Tough to say for sure.

But if at this point, you can't acknowledge that it's not RG3 winning in spite of the coaches then I don't know what to say[/quote]

We are winning because i have not cooked any chicken wings the past three games and I have been eating ribs.

skinsfan69 12-04-2012 12:04 PM

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[quote=53Fan;970822]I had posted earlier in the week that I had expected Jackson to have more sacks this year but didn't know if it was him or the way Haslett was using him. They ran some stunts in the second half and Jackson got a sack. I agree with you. Eli had time to take a nap back there at times and you can only cover a guy so long. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us try to get a pass rushing lineman next year. In fact we really need one. I really thought Jenkins would turn out to be that guy and he still may. But Haslett needs to come up with something this year. Our secondary needs all the help they can get.[/quote]

I had no problem with Haslett last night. He called a great game and was mixing things up all night long. As much as teams throw on us we should have more sacks. Kerrigan and Jackson have been a major disappointments rushing the passer.

skinsfan69 12-04-2012 12:11 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;970813]Plays that work = great calls. Plays that don't = Kyle is a bum.

Can't win 'em all, just watch any game and let us know if you find a perfectly called and executed game. Sometimes the D just does their job.[/quote]

True. But you have to admit, at times.... Kyle just tries to get too damn cute. Other than 2-3 plays he was just fine last night.

firstdown 12-04-2012 12:12 PM

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I'll have to say its hard to fault our secondary with our lack of pass rush. If I heard correctly our leading sack man has 3 1/2 and thats Orakpo.

Ruhskins 12-04-2012 12:13 PM

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[quote=firstdown;970835]I'll have to say its hard to fault our secondary with our lack of pass rush. If I heard correctly our leading sack man has 3 1/2 and thats Orakpo.[/quote]

Eli could have taken a nap in that pocket last night.

los panda 12-04-2012 12:15 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;970836]Eli could have taken a nap in that pocket last night.[/quote]we picked a good time for our only sack, though

12thMan 12-04-2012 12:23 PM

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I'd have to think Mr. Snyder would make Kyle the highest paid OC in the league if/when he starts entertaining offers.

53Fan 12-04-2012 12:28 PM

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 
[quote=Lotus;970820]Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle![/quote]

The only complaint I would have about Kyle is some of his calls really leave you scratching your head thinking, "wtf?" But the good part is that a lot of the time the opposing d-line is also doing the same thing. He can get them so confused it's funny. I mean laugh out loud funny. A lot of times the DE's have no idea what's happening. :)

FRPLG 12-04-2012 12:30 PM

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We only produce QB pressure when we bring it from odd players/angles and that can only work every now and then. And we simply don't cover well to get much in the way of coverage sacks or pressure enough to hide our lack of coverage. Its the chicken or the egg. We need just one person on that line to start winning battles more consistently. That would tighten the D up enough to really give us a shot to do something here.


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