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I may be in the minority on this, but from what I have seen these last 2 weeks I really don't want to RG3 back. If KC can even continue his current play I see 2 vital areas where he is better than RG3.
First he sees the field better and does not wait for player to become open & he is anticipating their breaks.
Second and probably the most important is his accuracy to deliver the ball to the receiver.
I like most of you have spent a ton of money on RG3 stuff, I will gladly give it all up for a true winner.
This is not about RG3 hate, I want to be competitive again & have something to look forward to.....

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What's the difference between Schaub and Brees. What's the difference between Brady and Ryan? Consistency and winning. Cousins can have good stats but he has to win and he has to have consistency. Time will tell.

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[quote=44Deezel;1085399]It's just as naive to assume he won't. It's more rare for guys to peak in their first few starts. There are far more examples of guys getting better with experience than vice versa. Being encouraged by his performance is a reasonable reaction to what he's done the last 2 weeks.[/quote]

I disagree. The NFL has had far more people that never reach the next level, just look at the length of the average NFL career. Some of that has to do with injuries, much of it has to do with individuals not having the skill set or mental aptitude for the game.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1085435]I disagree. The NFL has had far more people that never reach the next level, just look at the length of the average NFL career. Some of that has to do with injuries, much of it has to do with individuals not having the skill set or mental aptitude for the game.[/QUOTE]


Of course injuries can happen. I think what Deezel was saying is that based on KC's first few games as a starter, that it is more reasonable to expect him to flourish than to wilt. Not impossible for him not to pan out of course but based on the sample we have seen all signs point to yes. Atleast thats what my magic 8-ball says.

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I have been camping since Friday and just getting into town and getting caught up
Just seeing some of the replays and hearing about what transpired
I thought the hit by Baker on Nick was a cheap shot, maybe it was a legal play but it was still a cheap shot and I'd be pissed if Philly did that to our quarterback
Heard cousins looked really good except for the last two drives he shit the pot
We were only in the game because of his outstanding play but he definitely could have played better at the end
We should've definitely at least got a field goal out of that last drive to tie it
Very encouraged by the cousins play but the injuries are killing us,we have to beat the giants

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1085437]I have been camping since Friday and just getting into town and getting caught up
Just seeing some of the replays and hearing about what transpired
I thought the hit by Baker on Nick was a cheap shot, maybe it was a legal play but it was still a cheap shot and I'd be pissed if Philly did that to our quarterback
Heard cousins looked really good except for the last two drives he shit the pot
We were only in the game because of his outstanding play but he definitely could have played better at the end
We should've definitely at least got a field goal out of that last drive to tie it
Very encouraged by the cousins play but the injuries are killing us,we have to beat the giants[/QUOTE]


Pretty much sums it up except if the defense and special teams hadnt shit the bed for the entire game, KC wouldnt have been in a pressure situation at the end. He played good enough for us to be up by 30 had any other phase of our team remotely resembled a football team.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1085429]What's the difference between Schaub and Brees. What's the difference between Brady and Ryan? Consistency and winning. Cousins can have good stats but he has to win and he has to have consistency. Time will tell.[/quote]Well, going by this standard, RG3 is done. He hasn't been consistent, except getting injured. And he hasn't been a winner except with the Shanahans back in 2012.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1085440]Pretty much sums it up except if the defense and special teams hadnt shit the bed for the entire game, KC wouldnt have been in a pressure situation at the end. He played good enough for us to be up by 30 had any other phase of our team remotely resembled a football team.[/QUOTE]


Yes I forgot to mention special-teams how could I have forgotten? I can't believe our special teams have been this bad for so long
If they're not missing field goals or having ppunts get blocked or letting Teams return for td they are getting a penalty when we make a good return, I don't see how it is so hard not to block somebody in the back

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/WATCH-LIVE-Jay-Gruden-At-The-Podium/189b5add-20fd-4177-af72-c617ac9702f0]WATCH LIVE: Jay Gruden At The Podium[/url]

Gruden's presser from yesterday. At the 6:45 mark he talks about the 4th and 10 play. my quick transcription so errors and brevity may be there

"desean on a clear out route. roberts was running a 7 route and pierre was on a basic cross. Pierre ran a great route and just missed the throw ... there ws some pressure there ... play design had a couple good options ... want a few options capable of picking up 10 yards .."

Cousins just missed the last throw.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1085448][url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/WATCH-LIVE-Jay-Gruden-At-The-Podium/189b5add-20fd-4177-af72-c617ac9702f0]WATCH LIVE: Jay Gruden At The Podium[/url]



Gruden's presser from yesterday. At the 6:45 mark he talks about the 4th and 10 play. my quick transcription so errors and brevity may be there



"desean on a clear out route. roberts was running a 7 route and pierre was on a basic cross. Pierre ran a great route and just missed the throw ... there ws some pressure there ... play design had a couple good options ... want a few options capable of picking up 10 yards .."



Cousins just missed the last throw.[/QUOTE]


So thats what happened? Lol
Edit: the worse part is had he hit Garcon there was (if i remember correctly) one S to beat. The S was not exactly in the greatest position to dtop Garcon either. That could have been 7.

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when i saw it, i thought perhaps garcon made a read and broke his route to get into the open space and kirk just didnt read it the same way and assumed garcon would continue the route going straight (and into coverage).

i was curious if the last play was bc kirk and garcon arent on the same page yet vs kirk just missing the throw/bothered by peripheral pressure.

turns out - kirk made a bad throw bc of perceived pressure .... (devils advocate to defend kirk says the last thing you want is for your qb to take a sack on 4th down and at least kirk was aware of that .. albeit maybe too aware and sensitive)

i still think kirk's throws on 2nd and 3rd down (2 consecutive out routes) were very accurate throws but bad decisions as the corner was blanketing the receiver and anticipating a sideline throw.

wish we had called a screen on 2nd or 3rd instead but thats hindsight.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1085437]I have been camping since Friday and just getting into town and getting caught up
Just seeing some of the replays and hearing about what transpired
[B]I thought the hit by Baker on Nick was a cheap shot, maybe it was a legal play but it was still a cheap shot and I'd be pissed if Philly did that to our quarterback[/B]
Heard cousins looked really good except for the last two drives he shit the pot
We were only in the game because of his outstanding play but he definitely could have played better at the end
We should've definitely at least got a field goal out of that last drive to tie it
Very encouraged by the cousins play but the injuries are killing us,we have to beat the giants[/quote]
Somebody who saw the game can maybe add to this, but when I was listening to the radio, there was a play near the end zone when we were driving (the one that ended with the missed field goal), and KC took a delay of game penalty. On that play a Philly defender came and took a cheap shot on Cousins, no flag.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1085429]What's the difference between Schaub and Brees. What's the difference between Brady and Ryan? Consistency and winning. Cousins can have good stats but he has to win and he has to have consistency. Time will tell.[/quote]

I'm curious to know how you (and some others around here) would be acting had RG3 put on that exact performance Sunday. It'd be "he's a pocket passer now!!!" We all know you'd be on here going ape shit about how great he is. And he may be great one day, but he's not right now and he's had 3 major injuries in 6 years to his legs.

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C - it was loud and they guy actually dove at cousins, it was late but excusable imo if you watched the play. gruden did mention it in his presser saying they hit our QB 3 seconds after the whistle ... but gruden did a good job of not criticizing the refs

it was close but a good non-call imo. of course i hope the skins get the same benefit of the doubt in the future bc that situation happens once every couple games

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Thanks. The radio crew went on about it for a minute or two, but they are obviously biased so I wasn't sure