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Not making excuses for EB, and if he's gone he's gone, but if you compare us to other franchises where they have young QB's and poor OL, I can't help thinking EB has managed to make something out of nothing. The Jets, Panthers and Bears (except when they played us) all have terrible offenses with that combination. Our O hasn't been consistently horrible like they have, and arguably has only been truly bad in 3 or 4 games. And the O can't lean on the D at all when its having a bad day at the office.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1353433]Not making excuses for EB, and if he's gone he's gone, but if you compare us to other franchises where they have young QB's and poor OL, I can't help thinking EB has managed to make something out of nothing. The Jets, Panthers and Bears (except when they played us) all have terrible offenses with that combination. Our O hasn't been consistently horrible like they have, and arguably has only been truly bad in 3 or 4 games. And the O can't lean on the D at all when its having a bad day at the office.[/quote]

good points

I add as well that the examples you gave SH is better then those teams QBs

IMHO SH is more important to this offense then EB

I just really believe EB is nothing special; every carry over from last year expect SH (who really didn't play ) has digress including our "prized" number 17.

There is no way he should be HC; if he is HC I will be mightily disappointed and do to all of the disappointment from this team over the years I should feel pain from that disappointment but i have just become numb to it and expect it

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[quote=mredskins;1353431]i see your point


But its hard to see a new HC coming in and taking EB

There is a reason EB hasn't got a HC job and the only other job he could get was a lateral to one of if not the shitest franchises in the NFL; its because he probably isnt that good without world class talent and Andy Reid holding his hand


I am not crying if EB is gone by next season, honestly he is probably a black Josh McDaniels; he works well in a very specific environment and that environment has to be drenched in HoF talent.[/quote]

Bill Bellichick's assistants have gotten tons of opportunities to be head coaches even though everyone knew the success of that team came because of the QB and the coach. EB hasn't even gotten the opportunity to fail as a HC, yet McDaniels has been given two opportunities to do so.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1353435]Bill Bellichick's assistants have gotten tons of opportunities to be head coaches even though everyone knew the success of that team came because of the QB and the coach. [B]EB hasn't even gotten the opportunity to fail as a HC[/B], yet McDaniels has been given two opportunities to do so.[/quote]

i mean they have not given me the opportunity fail at HC either; you have to earn the opportunity

there is a whole world of the NFL we don't see or know; in that world EB is not very well regarded; again if he was he wouldn't have come here on a lateral move he had a HC job/opportunity by now

Honestly what wow's you about the guy?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1353355]This is great news if true. He can bring the Eagles OC w/ him too.[/quote]

Heck, he can bring the Eagles OL with him as well.

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[quote=mredskins;1353436]i mean they have not given me the opportunity fail at HC either; you have to earn the opportunity

there is a whole world of the NFL we don't see or know; in that world EB is not very well regarded; again if he was he wouldn't have come here on a lateral move he had a HC job/opportunity by now

Honestly what wow's you about the guy?[/quote]

I guess the point that I was trying to make (and not doing a good job at it) is that it seems that the jury is already out on EB about not being HC material, yet somehow Josh McDaniels was given a second opportunity to be a HC after failing miserably at it. And McDaniels was on the same boat as EB = OC of a team that had a legendary coach and QB.

Honestly, I'm not advocating for him to be a HC now, because I have a biased opinion of him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1353440]I guess the point that I was trying to make (and not doing a good job at it) is that it seems that the jury is already out on EB about not being HC material, yet somehow Josh McDaniels was given a second opportunity to be a HC after failing miserably at it. And McDaniels was on the same boat as EB = OC of a team that had a legendary coach and QB.

Honestly, I'm not advocating for him to be a HC now, because I have a biased opinion of him.[/quote]

Some of the Josh stuff is Bill is a D coach by nature, where in KC Andy is a O coach by nature.

Did Bill just give the keys to Josh and the NE O? Thus Josh deserving more credit for NE success O wise

And did Andy just let EB ride along as he really direct the O? Thus was EB just really more a assistant to Andy

EB also has a bit of a checker past (albeit a long time ago) but you are going pay a dude millions and run your billion dollar franchise; IDK that past be a red flag to me

Also its well documented EB is a hard ass; hard asses tend to ruffle feathers, folks with ruffled feathers don't generally like helping the ruffler

Don't really ever see EB being a HC unless he completely turns this O around and other then SH ( i believe is doing well on his own nothing EB doing) every carry over from last year including 17 has regressed under EB.

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i wonder who some of the names are that will be rumored for are head coaching position?

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[quote=mredskins;1353543]Some of the Josh stuff is Bill is a D coach by nature, where in KC Andy is a O coach by nature.

Did Bill just give the keys to Josh and the NE O? Thus Josh deserving more credit for NE success O wise

And did Andy just let EB ride along as he really direct the O? Thus was EB just really more a assistant to Andy

EB also has a bit of a checker past (albeit a long time ago) but you are going pay a dude millions and run your billion dollar franchise; IDK that past be a red flag to me

Also its well documented EB is a hard ass; hard asses tend to ruffle feathers, folks with ruffled feathers don't generally like helping the ruffler

Don't really ever see EB being a HC unless he completely turns this O around [B]and other then SH ( i believe is doing well on his own nothing EB doing) every carry over from last year including 17 has regressed under EB.[/B][/quote]

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[quote=njant;1353550]i wonder who some of the names are that will be rumored for are head coaching position?[/quote]

any OC/DC/GM type that's done well this year (lions, boyz, etc), and BB :/ and jim harbaugh. At this point it's all wild speculation without any constraints of reality ;)

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[quote=That Guy;1353587]any OC/DC/GM type that's done well this year (lions, boyz, etc), and BB :/ and[B] jim harbaugh.[/B] At this point it's all wild speculation without any constraints of reality ;)[/quote]

Would love to have; the problem going to be getting a Jim level guy he is going want be GM too and Harris likes HC and GM to be two different people.

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Top option would be 49ers Adam Peters for GM.

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[quote=Chico23231;1354039]Top option would be 49ers Adam Peters for GM.[/quote]

Or whoever is Howie Roseman's second in command. Hate to say it, but Iggles have done a good job building up that roster through draft, free agency, and trades.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1354085]Or whoever is Howie Roseman's second in command. Hate to say it, but Iggles have done a good job building up that roster through draft, free agency, and trades.[/quote]

Well the other guy and maybe the favorite, Ian Cunningham, is an x Eagles organization dude.