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[quote=TAFKAS;218011]Well he also threw 5 TDs and 0 Ints against KC and Denver last year but we lost both games, so how many TDs he threw in a game doesn't always tell the whole story. If he throws 3 on Sunday and we lose 27-24 or if he throws none and we win 16-10, which would you rather have?[/quote]

You are absolutely right...i really do not care if Portis comes back and he gets 20+ touches a game brunell gets like maybe 20 attempts throws for 150-180 yards....as long as either one of them get in the end zone!!!..

Im thinking we throw Portis in there give him like 20 carries maybe betts like 5 and duckett 5...then put campbell in and give him 15-20 attempts a game....cant hurt can it? kind of like what SD is doing...

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[quote=TAFKAS;218011]Well he also threw 5 TDs and 0 Ints against KC and Denver last year but we lost both games, so how many TDs he threw in a game doesn't always tell the whole story. If he throws 3 on Sunday and we lose 27-24 or if he throws none and we win 16-10, which would you rather have?[/quote]

That's a false option - you're focusing on the results of a single game, whereas they are talking about statistics that are most likely to lead to wins. I'll take the touchdowns, thank you, because, week in and week out, that gives us the best chance to win [B]each[/B] week.

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but then again...we dont have Phillip Rivers....But we need portis back.....i think this would work with either Brunell or Campbell....SD has rushed 85 times and passed 47 completing 33 for 2 TD's...........

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Brunell has gone somewhere between 150-200 pass attempts since his last throwing TD (this includes preseason)

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[quote=Daseal;218029]Brunell has gone somewhere between 150-200 pass attempts since his last throwing TD (this includes preseason)[/quote]

Pretty eye opening when you really think about it.

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i stopped reading this thread about 150 posts ago......anything new to discuss yet??? nope!!

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[quote=Daseal;218029]Brunell has gone somewhere between 150-200 pass attempts since his last throwing TD (this includes preseason)[/quote]
you cant include preseason

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I dont want to read thru this entire thread,has anybody posted what was said in espn insider about brunell?
[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=wickersham_seth&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fname%3dwickersham_seth]ESPN.com - INSIDER - Seth Wickersham Blog[/url]

No QB, not even Chris Simms, is under attack as much recently as Mark Brunell. He turned 36 on Sunday and received these types of birthday presents this week:
From The Washington Times: "As it was said of Stu Miller, Brunell has three speeds: slow, slower and slowest. In Brunell's case, that comes out to the dump-off pass, the underneath pass and the dink pass, none intended to spread the defense. On the rare occasion that Brunell tries to throw deep, the pass ends up packing all the velocity of a high, lazy punt. A defender sometimes finds himself circling under the ball, miffed only because the rules do not allow him to call a fair catch."

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)
 

lets see what he does with clinton portis back in the lineup before we give him the hook. Bench Brunnell for who Todd "I dont start games for a reason" Collins or Jason " I have no experience" Campbell? Seems like a no brainer if we have aspirations of the playoffs. Mark Brunell is the only viable option. Lose a couple more and then yes I think Campbell needs to play.

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Quick observation though...anyone besides me think Brunnell maybe injured? His play thus far is looking real similar to his first year here when he was injured and no one really knew about it.

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I agree what do we have to lose with the schedule we have coming up.Keep the faith![INDENT]
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[quote]
you cant include preseason[/quote]
Why? He was on the field against vanilla defenses. Either way -- he didnt throw many balls this preseason, still been a long damn time.

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[QUOTE=vaoutlaws2006;218203]Quick observation though...anyone besides me think Brunnell maybe injured? His play thus far is looking real similar to his first year here when he was injured and no one really knew about it.[/QUOTE]

That is no excuse & if he is injured he should sit his own ass down & let Campbell learn the new offense.

I've been a Skins fans since '82 & know when a guys had enough chances to succeed & fail & MB has earned a seat on the bench.

Houston is the perfect team to get Campbell in there w/o getting his head knocked off.

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I really don't think he's injured.

Besides, it's not like he's the only one playing like crap. The OL has stunk, the running game has stunk, his play is just a reflection of what's going on around him.

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Based on the title of this thread, I think the clear solution is to start Mega Man and his rocket [URL="http://pspupdates.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/8820_xx7art.jpg"]arm[/URL]

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i think mega man could take chuck norris, and even give ST the fight of his life. but he is no QB.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;218290]I really don't think he's injured.

Besides, it's not like he's the only one playing like crap. The OL has stunk, the running game has stunk, his play is just a reflection of what's going on around him.[/QUOTE]


how'd you guys like Ladell and T.J.s inspiring pass protection? Portis has us spoiled, i'm telling you.

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Brunells 9-20 press conference is pretty funny...

He's a classy guy and some reporters are total a-holes.

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[quote=illdefined;218304]how'd you guys like Ladell and T.J.s inspiring pass protection? Portis has us spoiled, i'm telling you.[/quote]

I agree. I saw duckett completely whiff at one attempt to block. and betts does he know what a block is?

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;218529]I agree. I saw duckett completely whiff at one attempt to block. and betts does he know what a block is?[/quote]
Are you talking about that block where duckett kept the guy outside, but then brunell was too afraid to step up in the pocket, so brunell tried to run around duckett and the guy he was blocking sacked him? That was not ducketts fault. Brunell would have been fine it he just stepped up in the pocket.

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Joe Gibbs will defend Mark Brunell until his last breath, but I value his worth on who else around the league would want him. If Brunell was released by the Skins today or tomorrow, who would pick him up, even in a back-up role? As bad as the raiders need a QB I doubt they would take Brunell.

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I have been a Brunell supporter in the past, but he is flat out not looking downfield! You can't tell me that Moss and Randel El as well as Lloyd are not getting open!
That being said, Brunell has had ample opportunity to learn this system, if he doesn't get it together vs Houston, we should sit Brunell and let Campbell learn for the rest of the season!

Take that a step farther...to avoid another Patrick Ramsey fiasco, if Campbell does not look decent by season's end, we need to get a GOOD free agent QB in the offseason.

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[quote=steveo395;218531]Are you talking about that block where duckett kept the guy outside, but then brunell was too afraid to step up in the pocket, so brunell tried to run around duckett and the guy he was blocking sacked him? That was not ducketts fault. Brunell would have been fine it he just stepped up in the pocket.[/quote]

If you have hbo watch inside the nfl and watch the highlights from our game and you will see. He ran right through Duckett. Duckett needed to turn him outside and it looks like duckett just gave up and down went brunnell.

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[quote=illdefined;218304]how'd you guys like Ladell and T.J.s inspiring pass protection? Portis has us spoiled, i'm telling you.[/quote]

I agree.

CP's value as a blocker is vastly underappreciated. Madden said he thinks CP and Edge are the two best blocking RBs in the league and I have to agree.

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[quote=RobH4413;218312]Brunells 9-20 press conference is pretty funny...

He's a classy guy and some reporters are total a-holes.[/quote]

Is that the one where they asked him how's it feel to be 36 and washed up?

Even though it was in jest you can understand MB being a bit grumpy. All the attention he's getting is ridiculous. Is he playing poorly? Yes. Is the entire offense playing poorly right now as well? Yes. So why is there no screams for the 10 other guys to be benched right now?

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[quote=Daseal;218029]Brunell has gone somewhere between 150-200 pass attempts since his last throwing TD (this includes preseason)[/quote]

You can't include practice games! :pffff:

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)
 

How about I bench your face with a tire iron?

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[quote=denim_monger;218815]tough talk over the internets

wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[/quote]

Denim Monger......back again.

How's that head pointer working out for you?

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I just stumbled on a post I did back in April regarding team needs.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/12170-redskins-team-needs-3.html#post174780[/url]

[QUOTE]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This team's number one need will not be addressed and could not be addressed via the draft: Improvement at QB.

It COULD all work out (and I pray it does). But the overwhelming probabilities are that the QB position is the landmine that blows up the season.

This position is very thin and brittle.[/QUOTE]

My point is not "I told you so". That stuff is pure BS. My point is quite simply that the current issues at QB were highly predictable.

The Skins have gone into the season with a 35 year old starter, a career backup with diminished skills and a guy who has never taken an NFL snap in anger.

The excuse that the protection, running and receivers are why the QB is not getting the job done are a bit hollow. I think it is the other way around.

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I say give Randel El a shot at QB!

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Benching MB is way overdue! He definitely should not be the starter! He sucks so bad, he could substitute for a vacuum cleaner! His completion percentage is so low, there is a mud puddle forming over it! His TD ratio is abysmal! His supporters do not know anything about JC and are married to the guy who saved HOF Joe Gibbs life! Wait, that was last week..................

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If he was worth a damn, why couldn't he throw 23 in a row???????????

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[quote=Hog1;219724]If he was worth a damn, why couldn't he throw 23 in a row???????????[/quote]
Could you!? Didn't think so...Sit back and let the people who get payed to do this play the game Armchair QB...

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[quote=pg86;219910]Could you!? Didn't think so...Sit back and let the people who get payed to do this play the game Armchair QB...[/quote]

Ummm... I know sarcasm is tough to pick up over the internet, but try to follow the context of the comment a little bit, before slamming someone.

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[quote=Southpaw;219922]Ummm... I know sarcasm is tough to pick up over the internet, but try to follow the context of the comment a little bit, before slamming someone.[/quote]

lol...that's funny!!

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[quote=Southpaw;219922]Ummm... I know sarcasm is tough to pick up over the internet, but try to follow the context of the comment a little bit, before slamming someone.[/quote]

Good call Southpaw-that sarcasm thing

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:D :D :D :D :D

Well this thread went silent.

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I was praying that he broke the record when it was getting close. All I could think about this thread, and the Ironic punch the the face Brunell gave all the haters.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;219962]I was praying that he broke the record when it was getting close. All I could think about this thread, and the Ironic punch the the face Brunell gave all the haters.[/QUOTE]
You thought that was a "punch in the face" to the haters? His performance was well suited to the game plan, but that game plan isn't going to fly against any other team on our schedule. He still has a [u]long[/u] way to go to prove that he can lead this team.

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10-6 proved enough to me, but oh well.