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hesscl34 11-17-2006 10:53 AM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;246919]Jeez are we really still talking about this?

Campbell is now the starter, let's move on.[/quote]

Seriously!! Sheesh!

Even I have accepted it!

GTripp0012 11-17-2006 07:48 PM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
[quote=That Guy;247324]not his DPAR, the whole college starts + college completion % = better NFL QB (it's what you quote when you say campbell is going to be great).[/quote]I know what I'm quoting. No, his (Boller's) completion % was awful in college. Thus he's projected awful.

Are you sure you are talking about Kyle Boller?

illdefined 11-17-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;247323]
Yes, I watch the games...not just the Redskins but [B][U]all[/U][/B] [B][U]televised games[/U][/B]. I have learned a lot from watching games...but eventaully you need to expand your horizions beyond that of the games to learn more.

I'd venture to say I watch more football than anyone else here (its my life)...but of course I can't know that for sure. Hopefully that's demonstrated in my posts. If not, go to my user profile and read some of my offseason posts.[/QUOTE]

ok, i'll bite, how is it your life GTripp? sounds like you want to tell us.

That Guy 11-18-2006 05:03 AM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
i apologize, it was tim couch that was supposed to be gangbusters. mcnabb was also projected to be much much worse than he is, but his speed makes up for it i'd assume... plummer also projects to be quite a bit better than he actually is as well.

dmek25 11-18-2006 07:00 AM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
the one thing thats hard to judge coming into the nfl is a quarterbacks ability to make plays. thats why mcnabb, peyton manning, and favre are soo sucessful. turning crap into gold. no one knows if campbell will be able to do this, yet

GTripp0012 11-18-2006 01:38 PM

Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?
 
[quote=dmek25;247712]the one thing thats hard to judge coming into the nfl is a quarterbacks ability to make plays. thats why mcnabb, peyton manning, and favre are soo sucessful. turning crap into gold. no one knows if campbell will be able to do this, yet[/quote]You're 100% right Dmek, the system projects Campbell at the same level as Peyton Manning (Although Manning exceeded his high projection). But it's one thing to be an efficent passer like Manning, it's completely a different one to be the complete quarterback like Manning. It's unreasonable to think he will be, but the system, more than 90% of the time can say good, bad, or average, and be correct. It basically says that over Campbell's college career, he's showed that he spreads the ball around and moves the chains consistently, and was well expierence in college. Traits that have a tendency to make a good NFL QB.

That Guy is right, and Couch was misprojected, he wasn't projected to be the greatest QB ever though, and they speculate that the reason for his misprojection was that his coach at Kentucky, Mike Leach, is synonymous with great no name passers, and that Couch was just a hyped version of this no name standard.

McNabb was projected to be better than he has turned out. This season he has been very good, but the stats confirm what I have believed for awhile, although McNabb is a very, very good passer, he is certainly overrated (I mean, all you hear about is how great he is, and it pisses this Eagle-hater off. How many times have you heard that Philadelphia has the most efficient running game this season [they do]). I also think he is a horrid game manager (how many times have you seen him run out of time in a half when they are inside field goal range?), but that could not be measured statistically. Not trying to take anything away from the guy, he's really good, but over his career he was never as good as you would be lead to believe.


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