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T.O.Killa 11-29-2011 03:48 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;864060]If everyone comes out, I think there will be six first round picks at the QB position. I am against trading up because I think the Redskins will have their pick of two or three first round QBs wherever they select. I think the probability says that there will certainly be a great quarterback when we pick, we just need to get a staff in place that can identify him.[/quote]
I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.

KI Skins Fan 11-29-2011 03:48 PM

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[quote=celts32;864057]Assuming he comes out [B]i think RG3 ends up going higher then Barkley[/B]. And RG3 is the guy I would target...[/quote]

Not gonna happen! Barkley is NFL ready. RGIII will need more time to develop.

SFREDSKIN 11-29-2011 03:49 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;864050]Right.

I think Barkley, Griffin, and Luck will all be gone by the sixth pick even if they call come out. It's very much worth looking at other names if we pick outside of the top six or seven.

If you want to make a youtube cut-up of Nick Foles someday, I think people would be shocked at how good of a player he is compared to other guys like Tannehill, Cousins, Lindley, Jones etc. The way people talk about him as a late round pick, you wouldn't think he could make any throw with any amount of pressure on him. Except that he can.

The other thing I like about Foles is how he uses his feet effectively. He's got Tom Brady's athleticism (or lack of), but still moves effectively. And while this may be an effect of his offense, he managed to be one of the toughest players to sack in college football (and one of the ten best passers) despite crappy receivers and two freshman tackles who couldn't block anything.

Assuming the top guys are gone, I would just sit tight and take Foles with the first round pick, wherever that may be in the round.[/quote]

If the skins are unable to grab any of the top tier QB's then Foles would be my next pick. He's under rated.

GTripp0012 11-29-2011 03:49 PM

Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;864063]I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.[/quote]Since 2004, at least.

GTripp0012 11-29-2011 03:51 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;864065]If the skins are unable to grab any of the top tier QB's then Foles would be my next pick. He's under rated.[/quote]I'd put him with the top tier guys. I'd probably go with Luck, then Griffin, then Barkley, then Foles, all top ten picks.

KI Skins Fan 11-29-2011 03:53 PM

Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;864063]I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.[/quote]

I agree with you. The plan should be to explore any and all avenues to get one of these two QB's.

GTripp0012 11-29-2011 03:53 PM

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Landry Jones and Kirk Cousins are very similar to me. Hard to put a round grade on them. They're both first round talents in terms of arm strength and ability to make throws with people around them, but they're third round decision makers.

I think Jones is really undervalued at this point, and would love to have him, but I think it's because he's so undervalued that he'll stay in school at this point.

KI Skins Fan 11-29-2011 03:59 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;864068]I'd put him with the top tier guys. I'd probably go with Luck, then Griffin, then Barkley, then Foles, all top ten picks.[/quote]

I wonder if RGIII is ready to run an NFL offense. I have no such reservations about Luck and Barkley.

BTW, I think your assessments of Landry and Cousins are right on the mark.

SFREDSKIN 11-29-2011 04:08 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;864068]I'd put him with the top tier guys. I'd probably go with Luck, then Griffin, then Barkley, then Foles, all top ten picks.[/quote]

That's what I meant. Luck, Barkley, RGIII are sure prospects, Foles is in my opinion some experts disagree. I thought you said he wouldn't be drafted till around the 5th round?

GTripp0012 11-29-2011 04:18 PM

Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;864081]That's what I meant. Luck, Barkley, RGIII are sure prospects, Foles is in my opinion some experts disagree. I thought you said he wouldn't be drafted till around the 5th round?[/quote]I never said that.

SFREDSKIN 11-29-2011 05:08 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;864083]I never said that.[/quote]

My bad, you said 5th or 6th overall not round. I agree with you 100%.

SmootSmack 11-29-2011 05:31 PM

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Don't forget about Ryan Tannehill. Whether you like him or not, if you want to talk about possible Redskins QBs the conversation has to include, perhaps even start with, Tannehill

Mechanix544 11-29-2011 05:49 PM

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I really hope we pick up RG3, i feel he is going to be a franchise type quarterback. If we suck enough the rest of the year and get a top 6 pick, i think trading down and picking up another draft pick is a very realistic option.

btw, I really think that Dwight Jones from north carolina is going to be a ridiculous talent in the NFL. If we could pair RG3 up with this guy, my god would I be happy. Watching Jones catch the ball is a thing of beauty, very underrated IMO. He doesnt get enough targets, and if he did, he would be putting up obscene numbers. Just watch this guy play........he is going to be ridiculous.


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1G_w2kfj0&feature=related]Dwight Jones vs Florida State - YouTube[/url]

Mechanix544 11-29-2011 06:07 PM

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I just got through watching tapes of Barkley of USC. Never really watched him play, as some USC talent is overhyped just because they are at USC, kinda like Ohio state talent.

After watching the tape (about 20 minutes worth of highlights), this guy is absolutely who we need to draft. If there is any way we can get him, we need to make it happen. He brings it all to the table, and i couldnt believe the touch and zing he puts on passes while the pocket around him disintegrates. Great poise, decision making and accuracy. Surefire top 5 pick, surefire NFL star.

Dirtbag59 11-29-2011 06:28 PM

Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)
 
[quote=GTripp0012;864050]
If you want to make a youtube cut-up of Nick Foles someday, I think people would be shocked at how good of a player he is compared to other guys like Tannehill, Cousins, Lindley, Jones etc. The way people talk about him as a late round pick, you wouldn't think he could make any throw with any amount of pressure on him. Except that he can.

The other thing I like about Foles is how he uses his feet effectively. He's got Tom Brady's athleticism (or lack of), but still moves effectively. And while this may be an effect of his offense, he managed to be one of the toughest players to sack in college football (and one of the ten best passers) despite crappy receivers and two freshman tackles who couldn't block anything.
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Someone has already done it. Maybe I need to watch him again but I was honestly more impressed with Tannehill.
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