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Speaking of Obama. My daughter lost her first tooth while eating chunky strawberry Ice Cream. Figured she swallowed it so my wife wanting it for a scrap book has been going through her crap.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;924816][SIZE=4]“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – [/SIZE][URL="http://uspolitics.about.com/od/speeches/a/obama_accept_5.htm"][SIZE=4][COLOR=#000080]Barack Obama 08/28/08[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.[/quote]

Help me understand all this stuff you keep posting...am I to understand that:


It is possible for someone to be 100% owner, chariman of the board, CEO and president and not be responsible for their company's actions but it is possible to build a company all on your own and take 100% responsibility for all of its success.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;924816][SIZE=4]“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – [/SIZE][URL="http://uspolitics.about.com/od/speeches/a/obama_accept_5.htm"][SIZE=4][COLOR=#000080]Barack Obama 08/28/08[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.[/quote]

Sammy just answer one,

If it wasn't Mitt at the helm,who was it and why did Mitt sign the papers?

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[quote=saden1;924723]Man, she's pretty and smart which makes for a pretty deadly attack dog...scary.

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57472580/dem-aide-on-bain-if-romney-wasnt-in-charge-who-was/?tag=showDoorLeadStoriesAreaMain;ftnLeadHero]Dem aide on Bain: If Romney wasn't in charge, who was? - CBS News[/url][/quote]


She clowned that guy...lol Romney better get on the phone and hire that woman ASAP.


I'll say this about the whole "Bain Captial" thing. Romney can't have it both ways, he can't claim to be in charge of Bain during the good years, and not in charge when they ship jobs overseas and other businesses go bankrupt. You can't have you cake and eat it to.

Fact of the matter is, if your name is on that SEC document saying you are in charge, you are in charge and are responsible whether you are making decisions or not. It's like she said, either you are lying to the American people or you are lying to the SEC.

I personally believe he was lying to the SEC. Was he running the ship during those 3 years? Most likely not, but had his company been a beacon of light during those years he's claiming to be absent, you can rest assure he would be saying he was in charge.

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[quote=Giantone;924861]Sammy just answer one,

If it wasn't Mitt at the helm,who was it and why did Mitt sign the papers?[/quote]Read the links FD and I posted, all the answers are there. If this is all the Ds have.....saden needs to get his checkbook out.

Since FD & I have answered questions (quite effectively), how about someone answer a question for me:

- What exactly was Obama's role in approving the Solyndra loan when their financial model was $hit and they had a failed IPO? $ 535M in TAXPAYER money stolen from the American people by Obama and his cronies. While you guys are trying to tie Romney to Bain (private corporation) to say he outsourced some jobs, you're OK with Obama funneling hundreds of millions to crooks that steal taxpayer money and cost over 1000 jobs.

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/solyndra-e-mails-show-obama-fundraiser-discussed-lobbying-white-house/2011/11/09/gIQAqPsq5M_story.html"]Solyndra e-mails show Obama fundraiser discussed effort to win White House help - The Washington Post[/URL]

[URL="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-fundraiser-pushed-solyndra-deal-inside/story?id=14691618"]Obama Fundraiser Pushed Solyndra Deal From Inside - ABC News[/URL]

and Solyndra is just the tip of the iceberg:
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/forget-bain-obamas-public-equity-record-is-the-real-scandal/2012/05/24/gJQAXnXCnU_story.html"]Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal - The Washington Post[/URL]

from the above link: All that cronyism and corruption is catching up with the administration. [URL="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67444.html"][COLOR=#000080]According to Politico[/COLOR][/URL], “The Energy Department’s inspector general has launched more than 100 criminal investigations” related to the department’s green-energy programs.

Answers?

and so NC Skins, 12th, and saden can't complain about "partisan" links....the links are from left-leaning media outlets.

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[quote=NC_Skins;924949]Fact of the matter is, if your name is on that SEC document saying you are in charge, you are in charge and are responsible whether you are making decisions or not. It's like she said, either you are lying to the American people or you are lying to the SEC.

I personally believe he was lying to the SEC. Was he running the ship during those 3 years? Most likely not, but had his company been a beacon of light during those years he's claiming to be absent, you can rest assure he would be saying he was in charge.[/quote]Romney was busy saving the 2002 Olympics for the USA. This article from the NY Times, certainly no friend of conservatives:

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/us/politics/19romney.html?pagewanted=all[/URL]

Again, all the Bain crap was vetted thoroughly by the Ds in MA when Romney ran for Gov. It had no teeth then and has no teeth now.

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[quote=NC_Skins;924949]She clowned that guy...lol Romney better get on the phone and hire that woman ASAP.


I'll say this about the whole "Bain Captial" thing. Romney can't have it both ways, he can't claim to be in charge of Bain during the good years, and not in charge when they ship jobs overseas and other businesses go bankrupt. You can't have you cake and eat it to.

Fact of the matter is, if your name is on that SEC document saying you are in charge, you are in charge and are responsible whether you are making decisions or not. It's like she said, either you are lying to the American people or you are lying to the SEC.

I personally believe he was lying to the SEC. Was he running the ship during those 3 years? Most likely not, but had his company been a beacon of light during those years he's claiming to be absent, you can rest assure he would be saying he was in charge.[/quote]

He most definitely was in charge, at least on a limited role You don't have that much assets and that many titles and not have one eye on your company. It simply doesn't compute and you can't hide this kind of stuff for long and eventually phone records and meeting info will come out.


As Romney and his cohorts seem to be saying, if the leadership hat don't fit, you must quit Romney.

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Funny I have seen the left here use Fact check to prove their points but now when it does not agree with them they toss it out as wrong. It really does not matter here because none of you are going to vote for him in the first place.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;924952]Read the links FD and I posted, all the answers are there. If this is all the Ds have.....saden needs to get his checkbook out.

Since FD & I have answered questions (quite effectively), how about someone answer a question for me:

- What exactly was Obama's role in approving the Solyndra loan when their financial model was $hit and they had a failed IPO? $ 535M in TAXPAYER money stolen from the American people by Obama and his cronies. While you guys are trying to tie Romney to Bain (private corporation) to say he outsourced some jobs, you're OK with Obama funneling hundreds of millions to crooks that steal taxpayer money and cost over 1000 jobs.

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/solyndra-e-mails-show-obama-fundraiser-discussed-lobbying-white-house/2011/11/09/gIQAqPsq5M_story.html"]Solyndra e-mails show Obama fundraiser discussed effort to win White House help - The Washington Post[/URL]

[URL="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-fundraiser-pushed-solyndra-deal-inside/story?id=14691618"]Obama Fundraiser Pushed Solyndra Deal From Inside - ABC News[/URL]

and Solyndra is just the tip of the iceberg:
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/forget-bain-obamas-public-equity-record-is-the-real-scandal/2012/05/24/gJQAXnXCnU_story.html"]Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal - The Washington Post[/URL]

from the above link: All that cronyism and corruption is catching up with the administration. [URL="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67444.html"][COLOR=#000080]According to Politico[/COLOR][/URL], “The Energy Department’s inspector general has launched more than 100 criminal investigations” related to the department’s green-energy programs.

Answers?

[B]and so NC Skins, 12th, and saden can't complain about "partisan" links....the links are from left-leaning media outlets[/B].[/quote]

LOL, left-leaning media outlets have conservative writers such as Marc A. Thiessen who happens to be AEI fellow, former chief speech writer for Bush and masterful political hack who titles his opinion columns "Forget Bain....."

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Yeah, saving the Olympics with all of the federal money Republicans hate so much.

Look, if you have to get into the weeds about when you left a company, you have a problem on your hands. The Obama team are going to hit this guy on Bain and taxes all the way to November, as they should.

What's funny is that Rommey is running from his record as governor of Mass and now his time at Bain Capital. What exactly is the guy running on?

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There is some speculation that in 2007 Romney had maybe had some Iranian holdings. Can you imagine that bombshell, pardon the pun.

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What do you call a blind trust? Voting for Romney in November.

Thank you, I'll be here all night.

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[quote=firstdown;924966]Funny I have seen the left here use Fact check to prove their points but now when it does not agree with them they toss it out as wrong. It really does not matter here because none of you are going to vote for him in the first place.[/quote]and what's even funnier is how the lefties here completely ignore the charges and investigations against Obama and his "green energy" fiascos, even when facts hit them square in the face.

The mis-appropriation (funneling of billions of tax dollars to Obama cronies) of taxpayer money with Solyndra etc. is going to hit home with the American people far more than "when was Romney running Bain".

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[quote=12thMan;924975]What do you call a blind trust? Voting for Romney in November.

Thank you, I'll be here all night.[/quote]

LOL, that's a good one.