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[url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/316281957539540992[/url]

[quote]@AdamSchefter

Packers TE Jermichael Finley, due a $3 million roster bonus by 4 pm today, will remain in Green Bay and make $8.25 million this season.[/quote]

8.25mil for Finley? Hell no. Has Green Bay lost their mind? I'd rather have Fred Davis than Finley.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1000284][url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/316281957539540992[/url]



8.25mil for Finley? Hell no. Has Green Bay lost their mind? I'd rather have Fred Davis than Finley.[/quote]

Yeah that one was surprising. They are usually smarter than that.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000108]And 4th in the division next year.[/quote]lol. Just bottom of the division? John Mara's team deserves nothing less than the natural #1 pick in the draft every year.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1000299]lol. Just bottom of the division? John Mara's team deserves nothing less than the natural #1 pick in the draft every year.[/quote]



What, not Jerry Jones?

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[quote=Giantone;1000300]What, not Jerry Jones?[/quote]

Sorry, Giants are the new Cowboys.
You are now tied for for the #1 spot for the biggest underhanded a$$wipe organization.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1000304]Sorry, Giants are the new Cowboys.
You are now tied for for the #1 spot for the biggest underhanded a$$wipe organization.[/quote]

F...Mara.

The official team slogan for 2012-2013.

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[quote=Giantone;1000300]What, not Jerry Jones?[/quote]

No one is worried about the Cowboys anymore. No matter what they do, as long as Jerry is in charge, the Cowboys will be relegated to mediocrity. And don't forget to throw in OH NO Romo for a good December laugh.

[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1000380]No one is worried about the Cowboys anymore. No matter what they do, as long as Jerry is in charge, the Cowboys will be relegated to mediocrity. And don't forget to throw in OH NO Romo for a good December laugh.[/QUOTE]

you want to see a scary sight. look at the Cowboys 2014 cap. At over the cap.com they have it listed at 140M. Of course, as long as Jerrys drafting they will be the new Raiders, and I am fine with that.

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Kevin Barnes is a Brown.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5327/kevin-barnes]Kevin Barnes - Cleveland Browns - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000389]Kevin Barnes is a Brown.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5327/kevin-barnes]Kevin Barnes - Cleveland Browns - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

From the article:

Barnes, 26, appeared in two games with Detroit last season after being acquired in a preseason trade from Washington. He didn't make the statsheet. Barnes has experience at safety, outside corner, and slot cornerback, [B]but he's been a bust since the Redskins selected Barnes 80th overall in the 2009 draft[/B]

Yep. I remember when he was drafted i knew it was a crap selection. Bust was written all over him.

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Everyone loved the pick of Kevin Barnes solely on the fact he was that guy who leveled jahvid best and made him throw up on the field.

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[quote=Giantone;1000300]What, not Jerry Jones?[/quote]Jerry Jones isn't the cheater that John Mara is.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1000440]Jerry Jones isn't the cheater that John Mara is.[/quote]


Oh Hail, you're a funny guy .

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Browns get JCampbell.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-sign-qb-jason-campbell-020749873--nfl.html;_ylt=AgpprWhhHi75yx5v1MgJScNDubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTRtMGw2MnY1BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBsaXN0IE5GTCBoZWFkbGluZXMEcGtnAzk1MjhjNWMwLTdhYTQtM2NjYi04YWJhLWU3MmE3NzZlYWY1NwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCTGlzdE1peGVkTFBDQVRlbXAEdmVyAzA1MDYwYzUwLTk2ODctMTFlMi1iN2ZiLWMzZGQwMDlhYTkxMQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3]Y! SPORTS[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1000435]Everyone loved the pick of Kevin Barnes solely on the fact he was that guy who leveled jahvid best and made him throw up on the field.[/quote]

That was a career highlight for BOTH of those busts.

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[quote=Lotus;1000470]Bears get JCampbell.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-sign-qb-jason-campbell-020749873--nfl.html;_ylt=AgpprWhhHi75yx5v1MgJScNDubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTRtMGw2MnY1BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBsaXN0IE5GTCBoZWFkbGluZXMEcGtnAzk1MjhjNWMwLTdhYTQtM2NjYi04YWJhLWU3MmE3NzZlYWY1NwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCTGlzdE1peGVkTFBDQVRlbXAEdmVyAzA1MDYwYzUwLTk2ODctMTFlMi1iN2ZiLWMzZGQwMDlhYTkxMQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3"]Y! SPORTS[/URL][/quote]

You mean the Browns took him from the Bears.


What is Cleveland doing...trying to rejuvenate all of our former players to get back at us for getting Griffin before them?

Take Fred too! (he's visiting Bills and Jets)

If our draft goes well at safety, we'll trade you Madieu Williams!

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000475][B]You mean the Browns took him from the Bears.
[/B]

What is Cleveland doing...trying to rejuvenate all of our former players to get back at us for getting Griffin before them?

Take Fred too! (he's visiting Bills and Jets)

If our draft goes well at safety, we'll trade you Madieu Williams![/quote]

Ooops my bad. Pre-coffee. Fixed original.

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Jason is working his way around the league...he's going to be the Matt Stairs of football.

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[quote=Giantone;1000443]Oh Hail, you're a funny guy .[/quote]Yeah, I'm really too kind sometimes.

In 2012, Mara leading the charge to retroactively penalize a division rival $18 mil per year the next two years, out of a what $120 mil total cap per year? For contracts approved by the league in 2010. When the league admitted "no rules were broken"? That's cheating.

John Mara is like a child upset with how the game was going (Redskins/Cowboys getting better with cap help due to uncapped year), so he got the rules changed (the CBA amendment) to gain an advantage. When the Skins and cowboys had broken no rules themselves.

It's pretty cut and dried. John Mara cheated by unfairly handicapping two division rivals, and reinforced illegal collusion to boot. Collusion to nullify an uncapped year that the NFL and NFLPA had negotiated under the previous CBA in good faith. I should stop being funny and call it what it is. John Mara is slime.

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Taylor Swift has put John Mara on her list of guys not to date.

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Captain Checkdown is a cleveland Brown. Wow his career is down the toilet.

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Cleveland's O-line will actually be the best one he's ever had...solid line.

They wanted to bring in competition for their 30-year old sophomore QB. Should be interesting to see if JC can actually challenge him. It's possible, Weeden is not a clear #1.

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Micheal Huff signs with Baltimore Ravens.
I am glad he did not sign with Dallas.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-national-football-league-roundup-234803521--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1000491]Yeah, I'm really too kind sometimes.

In 2012, Mara leading the charge to retroactively penalize a division rival $18 mil per year the next two years, out of a what $120 mil total cap per year? For contracts approved by the league in 2010. When the league admitted "no rules were broken"? That's cheating.

John Mara is like a child upset with how the game was going (Redskins/Cowboys getting better with cap help due to uncapped year), so he got the rules changed (the CBA amendment) to gain an advantage. When the Skins and cowboys had broken no rules themselves.

It's pretty cut and dried. John Mara cheated by unfairly handicapping two division rivals, and reinforced illegal collusion to boot. Collusion to nullify an uncapped year that the NFL and NFLPA had negotiated under the previous CBA in good faith. I should stop being funny and call it what it is. John Mara is slime.[/quote]

Say what you want but there were others involved ,like it or not.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/09/on-cap-penalties-union-already-threw-redskins-under-the-bus/]On cap penalties, union already threw Redskins under the bus | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Defensewins;1000638]Micheal Huff signs with Baltimore Ravens.
I am glad he did not sign with Dallas.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-national-football-league-roundup-234803521--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url][/quote]

Why? Huff has been a huge bust for the Raiders. If anything, he'd make Dallas worse. Which is good for us.

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[quote=Giantone;1000657]Say what you want but there were others involved ,like it or not.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/09/on-cap-penalties-union-already-threw-redskins-under-the-bus/]On cap penalties, union already threw Redskins under the bus | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]By "say what you want" do you mean anything other than "Yes those are the facts and I admit on this issue that John Mara is a slimeball."? If not what do you mean?

Yes, Demaurice Smith is another slimeball. He sold out the players, by excusing NFL collusion, to keep his job. Do you dispute this?

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/28/giants-take-a-look-at-tim-hightower/]Giants take a look at Tim Hightower | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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In eight years in the NFL Michael Huff has zero touchdowns and 11 ints. Why people think he's the second coming of Ed Reed or Champ Bailey I have no ideal.

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I don't think Fred Davis will be here next season. Shame. We're going to the Super Bowl.

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[quote=12thMan;1000723]I don't think Fred Davis will be here next season. Shame. We're going to the Super Bowl.[/quote]

The fact that he's weighing all these offers tells me he feels disrespected by the money we're offering him. I expect him to not sign back with us. We sign Winfield, giving us the flexibility and freedom to draft a TE with our 2nd rounder.

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Todd McShay's newest mock draft has #Redskins drafting Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State at #51.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1000731]Todd McShay's newest mock draft has #Redskins drafting Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State at #51.[/quote]

Can't block but I would be very happy with that pick.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1000731]Todd McShay's newest mock draft has #Redskins drafting Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State at #51.[/quote]

That guy is built like Gronk.

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huge mistake going TE 2 or 3rd round. huge

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1000735]huge mistake going TE 2 or 3rd round. huge[/QUOTE]

If he is able to be a day one starter and put up solid numbers immediately. I could live with it.

Otherwise, I agree.

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[quote=Chico23231;1000735]huge mistake going TE 2 or 3rd round. huge[/quote]

Depends which players are available. If the good safeties/corners are gone why reach for one that won't have nearly the impact that Escobar might have. It all depends on who is available at the time. Don't do what the Patriots do with corners/safeties, because it obviously never works. Every other position they draft the best player available, yet they reach for corners and safeties and it fails miserably.

All depends who falls to the Skins.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1000737]If he is able to be a day one starter and put up solid numbers immediately. I could live with it.

Otherwise, I agree.[/quote]

If he wasnt a day one starter, way bigger mistake in 2nd round. You go with Paulsen and look at a vet and there are solid TE in the 4th, 5th round.

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[quote=donofriose;1000738]Depends which players are available. If the good safeties/corners are gone why reach for one that won't have nearly the impact that Escobar might have. It all depends on who is available at the time. Don't do what the Patriots do with corners/safeties, because it obviously never works. Every other position they draft the best player available, yet they reach for corners and safeties and it fails miserably.

All depends who falls to the Skins.[/quote]

They are starters in the secondary in the 2nd and 3rd round. Yes, its that deep.

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[quote=Chico23231;1000741]They are starters in the secondary in the 2nd and 3rd round. Yes, its that deep.[/quote]

Starters yes, but the type of impact Escobar might potentially have would be greater than what might be available. It's not just about finding starters to fill needs, its about finding the best players and getting them on your team. If a player like Trufant, or Elam is available, I would go with them, because they are greater players than Escobar, but if its between Thomas from Syracuse, Alford or Escobar because everyone else was taken, I would go with Escobar.

Redskins can improve on pretty much every position except QB and RB.

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[quote=donofriose;1000732]Can't block but I would be very happy with that pick.[/quote]

They said his blocking is very coachable. He played at a small school so his coaching and competition isn't NFL caliber. Give him to our TEs coach and hell make him a good/better blocker. Plus Fred couldn't block so it's not a droppoff from what we had. Improvement in my eyes.