Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

One thing we do know is JC can take a beating & get back up.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=Bigreds77;647957]One thing we do know is JC can take a beating & get back up.[/quote]

Who cares...

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

^ Given the status of our O-line men.. I think we all should care.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

Yes. He is the most physically talented QB we've had in my lifetime (1981-present). Can't wait to see what he can do behind a solid line. For him to be an average QB behind a nonexistent O-line without Portis or Cooley speaks to his talent. I also will never forget his performance through the first half of last season, which was nothing short of epic. EPIC!

Doesn't hurt that I'm also not enthralled with anybody coming in the draft or available through free agency.

Full disclosure: I've never watched Colt McCoy.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;647791]people have to realize that some of the sacks that jc takes are on him. sometimes he doesn't step up in the pocket, sometimes he holds the ball too long, doesn't see what the defense is doing to him fast enough. on a 3 step drop it's very simple, 1-2-3 and throw. And even on the quick short stuff he holds the ball. we've seen this over and over and over again. it's like the guy can't make any adjustments to his game. [B]imo the first position that needs to be addressed is qb.[/B][/quote]

The first position that needs to be addressed is QB?

If by "addressed" you mean "better coached and added depth," then I agree.

The only positions that need to be addressed by improving "athletic ability of the starters" are all along the offensive line, KR/PR, and some of the WR slots. That's it. Even Landry is one hell of an athlete.

Campbell screwed up one time in the Dallas game in failing to adjust to a blitz, and he got called out on it by everybody. How many times had he been knocked down before that play??? I wouldn't have seen the safety cheating up, either, because I'd be blinking back all the tears.

Do not forget Campbell's first half of the 2008 season. He was good on a historical scale.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;647944]LOL How does that support anything? That's an article basically saying "IF" or "Could be". I'm tired of arguing about JC, he's a decent player but we all know Shanahan won't keep him. I'm not dogging you Pain but c'mon man![/quote]
Eh, I read it much more negatively than you did. If the coach who has just spent the past 2 years coaching him isn't ready to endorse him at this point, I don't know that anyone would.

In a capped year, I'd probably agree with you but don't be blindsided with disappointment when Shanny keeps him around because it's the right football decision in an uncapped year.

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[quote=Zorn on the 4th of July;647972]The first position that needs to be addressed is QB?

If by "addressed" you mean "better coached and added depth," then I agree.

The only positions that need to be addressed by improving "athletic ability of the starters" are all along the offensive line, KR/PR, and some of the WR slots. That's it. Even Landry is one hell of an athlete.

Campbell screwed up one time in the Dallas game in failing to adjust to a blitz, and he got called out on it by everybody. How many times had he been knocked down before that play??? I wouldn't have seen the safety cheating up, either, because I'd be blinking back all the tears.

Do not forget Campbell's first half of the 2008 season. He was good on a historical scale.[/quote]



He was historically good by not throwing INT'S.... He didn't throw TD's either lol. Show me one QB that doesn't throw 10-14 int's every year and I will show you the same QB that doesn't throw many td's either. Jc never takes chances and thats why he wasn't regarded to be better than the likes of Orton (ASK DENVER) They turned JC down instead and that was confirmed by many reports not just PFT.

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Despite all the criticism of Campbell he somehow manages to lead every positive poll that his name is mentioned in. There seems to be a rather strange sort of love hate relationship many fans have going on with him.

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[quote=Longtimefan;647990]Despite all the criticism of Campbell he somehow manages to lead every positive poll that his name is mentioned in. There seems to be a rather strange sort of love hate relationship many fans have going on with him.[/quote]

Again IDK how he leads this poll.. I mean what are you folks thinking? Jason is not our answer so why would we bring him back? He has had his chances, David Carr only had 4 years in Houston, Harrington the same in Detroit. Stats don't lie people 20-32 as a starter is terrible. Time to start over!

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I think one thing that a lot of people are overlooking is does Jason Campbell want to come back here with the line and rb situation in such a mess? Lets say Jason Campbell's agent got a call from the Minnesota Vikings who happen to have one of the best running backs in the NFL and a solid offensive line and good WR's - if you are Campbell do you come back to the Skins who are going to need 2-3 years of rebuilding - especially with a new offensive line - or do you take the chance to go to the Vikings who will need to replace Brett at some point soon and your main competition to be the long term solution is Tavaris Jackson who I think Jason Campbell can beat out. I don't know about you but I would rather be playing behind an oline that has the likes of Steve Hutchinson versus Mike Williams.

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Yes.
I want Jason back in 2010.

I learned alot about him this season.
I was expecting a good year from him this year.
But if you told me before the season that:
o our OL give up 41 sacks despite scaling the offense back to mainly 3 step drops to avoid giving up sacks
o we wouldn't be able to run the ball
o we would have the 2nd most line-up changes along the OL in the NFL
o we would be down to using an a RB off the street
o Zorn would be replaced as playcaller mid-season by a guy calling bingo
o and Cooley would be on IR

i wouldn't have expected JC to be the 17th rated QB in the league
with 3,337, touchdown passes 18/15 ints and quarterback rating 85.0

I wouldn't have thought it was possible.

Imo we still don't know Jason ceiling because of the way this team has been mis-managed.

And i'm willing to stick with Jason and address the other more glaring holes.. no chasms on this team.

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[quote=30gut;648028]Yes.
I want Jason back in 2010.

I learned alot about him this season.
I was expecting a good year from him this year.
But if you told me before the season that:
o our OL give up 41 sacks despite scaling the offense back to mainly 3 step drops to avoid giving up sacks
o we wouldn't be able to run the ball
o we would have the 2nd most line-up changes along the OL in the NFL
o we would be down to using an a RB off the street
o Zorn would be replaced as playcaller mid-season by a guy calling bingo
o and Cooley would be on IR

i wouldn't have expected JC to be the 17th rated QB in the league
with 3,337, touchdown passes 18/15 ints and quarterback rating 85.0

I wouldn't have thought it was possible.

Imo we still don't know Jason ceiling because of the way this team has been mis-managed.

And i'm willing to stick with Jason and address the other more glaring holes.. no chasms on this team.[/quote]

Good post 30gut. With all you've mentioned it's hard to believe he could rank that high.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

I say Yes bring JC back for next season because he is our best option. JC when he does have time he can make all the throws. He can run if needed and showed his toughness this season. I think most of us get on JC because he is not a vocal leader and he appears slow at reading defenses. Well with the O-line we have and many offense of systems we have had its really hard to evaluate JC due to this shit show. Some people lead different than others and JC does not appear to a vocal guy or show his emotions when upset. We should not take this for weakness because he doesn't rant and rave on the sideline or in the media. JC has heart and I think he can be a good enough QB to lead a good team into the playoffs or Super Bowl. The problem is we have not had a good enough team for him to do that. Lets get a better team around him and give him the chance.

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Bring em back I guess, I don't feel that great about either option... But I have a feeling Mr. Bradford is going to be our guy.

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[quote=Bill B;647997]I think one thing that a lot of people are overlooking is does Jason Campbell want to come back here with the line and rb situation in such a mess? Lets say Jason Campbell's agent got a call from the Minnesota Vikings who happen to have one of the best running backs in the NFL and a solid offensive line and good WR's - if you are Campbell do you come back to the Skins who are going to need 2-3 years of rebuilding - especially with a new offensive line - or do you take the chance to go to the Vikings who will need to replace Brett at some point soon and your main competition to be the long term solution is Tavaris Jackson who I think Jason Campbell can beat out. I don't know about you but I would rather be playing behind an oline that has the likes of Steve Hutchinson versus Mike Williams.[/quote]It doesn't matter what JC wants, the way things look he'll be a RFA rather than UFA. If he's an RFA, if the team wants him back, he'll be back.