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[quote=Mattyk;1013428]Burn the witch dammit![/quote]


Sure as hell in the right place for it!

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[quote=Mattyk;1013428]Burn the witch dammit![/quote]

No kidding.

It's odd that people who have blamed the media on the Warpath before are just thoughtlessly swallowing what the media feeds them on the Hernandez story hook, line, and sinker.

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[quote=Lotus;1013434]No kidding.

It's odd that people who have blamed the media on the Warpath before are just thoughtlessly swallowing what the media feeds them on the Hernandez story hook, line, and sinker.[/quote]

Well today we heard the prosecutor lay out some of the evidence....shell casings, tire evidence, text messages, video...pretty compelling stuff.

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[quote=Lotus;1013427]I never said Hernandez was innocent. In fact I repeatedly said that things for him looked "fishy."

What I said was that you were unfairly convicting him without allowing him a defense. And you still are. You still have not heard his side of the story.[/quote]

We may never hear his side of the story, and if he does choose to testify, it won't be for another year at the earliest.

And yes I know you have been saying things look fishy and that we need to hear his side of the story, but lets all be honest here, you know everything is adding up to him doing it Dan.

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The DA is apparently making some very specific charges including this:

"DA's saying [Hernandez] shot Lloyd three times right after Lloyd got out of the car. Then stood over him & put two in his chest."

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/aaron-hernandez-charged-murder-184503162.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

Not sure the basis for saying AH was the triggerman, but that's a pretty specific allegation as to how the shooting occurred by the prosecutor.

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Following the stuff that came out at the arraignment:
- Surveillance video in industrial park shows rental car driven by Hernandez
* 3:23am Camera captures car traveling to gravel road;
* 4 minutes later. Car visible again. During the interim gunshots heard;
* 3:30am surveillance captured AH and 2 others at his home;
* Camera shows Hernandez with gun in his hand.

- Prosecutor: Lloyd was shot multiple times. At least twice in the chest. Ballistics showed he was shot while he was down;

- Hernandez trades in one rental car for another. Employee finds shell casing in the car;

- Casing sent to ballistics and matched victim;

- Tire impressions at scene analyzed. Shows victim shot right by car.

[url=http://live.boston.com/Event/Aaron_Hernandez_arrest_updates?Page=1]Aaron Hernandez arrest updates - live blog[/url]

Lots of forensic evidence it sounds like. Apparently, there is a lot of survelliance video from multiple sources.

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^DUDE! Innocent until proven guilty! Gosh! (/sarcasm)

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1013440]Following the stuff that came out at the arraignment:
- Surveillance video in industrial park shows rental car driven by Hernandez
* 3:23am Camera captures car traveling to gravel road;
* 4 minutes later. Car visible again. During the interim gunshots heard;
* 3:30am surveillance captured AH and 2 others at his home;
* Camera shows Hernandez with gun in his hand.

- Prosecutor: Lloyd was shot multiple times. At least twice in the chest. Ballistics showed he was shot while he was down;

- Hernandez trades in one rental car for another. Employee finds shell casing in the car;

- Casing sent to ballistics and matched victim;

- Tire impressions at scene analyzed. Shows victim shot right by car.

[URL="http://live.boston.com/Event/Aaron_Hernandez_arrest_updates?Page=1"]Aaron Hernandez arrest updates - live blog[/URL]

Lots of forensic evidence it sounds like. Apparently, there is a lot of survelliance video from multiple sources.[/quote]


You would think that after the Boston Marathon bombing and how those guys were caught he would have known better.

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Weren't there 4 people in the car? How has there been no mention at all of the other two guys?

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1013443]Weren't there 4 people in the car? How has there been no mention at all of the other two guys?[/QUOTE]

It's called snitches.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1013443]Weren't there 4 people in the car? How has there been no mention at all of the other two guys?[/quote]

They'll be brought to trial, but most likely police questioned them and they all pointed the finger at Hernandez. More to come for sure.

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Early evidence definitely not looking good for Hernandez. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when I first heard about this, but I have a hard time believing he didn't have any role in this. If he is guilty, it will be a shame, and he'll just be the next name in a long line of talented people who threw it all away over some dumb shit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1013443]Weren't there 4 people in the car? How has there been no mention at all of the other two guys?[/quote]

My assumption is Chrissy and Paulie have already knockoff and buried these two at the farm on the orders of Aaron Hernandez Soprano.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1013441]^DUDE! Innocent until proven guilty! Gosh! (/sarcasm)[/quote]

Go to China. They convict people without allowing them a defense all the time. You'll fit right in.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1013441]^DUDE! Innocent until proven guilty! Gosh! (/sarcasm)[/quote]

I don't get your sarcasm. Neither Lotus, nor I, ever said disregard forensic evidence, prosecutorial statements, or "hard" circumstantial evidence presented in court. But, we (the collective internet jury pool) had NONE of that up until around 2pm today. Before any of that, it was and is reasonable to say "let's wait and see". Today, based on presentation in court - sh** got real.