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I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1184637]This! To me, this is the barebones truth. He'll always have great numbers in a vacuum, but if you see when they happen, it comes up a lot more empty than it looks like on the back of a football card.[/quote]

It is all about the Ws and the guy's W-L percentage is in the range of Gus Frerotte's. I laughed my ass off back in 1998-99 when Gus actually wanted a raise to be resigned. For what? Head butting another wall?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1184641]I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.[/QUOTE]



Agreed. This game doesn’t sum up his season. Or career. As bad as it was.

I’m less concerned about Cousins than I am Gruden. How can you let a 2 win division rival with zero to play for bully you? Can we get the other Gruden in here? Or better still, Cowher?


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[quote=skinsfan69;1184641]I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.[/quote]

Kirk is a starting QB, and that is it. He has shown his max potential and like you said has no talent to work with. This guy hasn't done anything to warrant a raise, a raise mind you, that might keep us from getting better talent or keeping the guys that show promise. Do we keep a QB, but always have him surrounded by a rather talent deficient team, or dump the average QB and surround the new guy with a lot of talent? It is a damned if we do, damned if we don't type thing.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1184641]I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.[/quote]

You are right good post, my anger got the best of me earlier. Plus who
Is to say Baker won’t be the 1st QB picked by the Browns.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1184626]It sucks, but it really was just one game. :/[/QUOTE]



One really ugly game! Ouch!


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1184629]The body of work is an under .500 record with no playoff wins and lots of choking. His body of work is cute stats and big losses.[/quote]

Was today a big loss? It sounds like some people are mad we didn't finish the season on a strong note today.

S/N what happened to the notion of fielding the best 53, and winning a SB like that? Do people realize Kirk has a 24 million cap hit this year? Adding another few mil onto that is not going to break our backs.

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[quote=calia;1184643]Agreed. This game doesn’t sum up his season. Or career. As bad as it was.

I’m less concerned about Cousins than I am Gruden. How can you let a 2 win division rival with zero to play for bully you? Can we get the other Gruden in here? Or better still, Cowher?


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Doesn't sum up his career? Surely you jest!!!!!

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Great way to kick off the year. :(

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[quote=skinsfan69;1184641]I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.[/quote]

This has been a rag tag group almost since Gruden came aboard. Remember 2015? We were ravaged by injuries as well. Our FA Wrs stayed healthy for the most part.

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Thank goodness we didn’t play the Browns today. Could you imagine being the team to end both winless streaks? And it would have happened too.

I’ll bet Mara ensures we play the NYG at home every week 17 from now on. Crazy how bad we are in that setting.


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Like I keep saying, Kirk is baffling. There are one or two games a year where a truly top-10 QB needs to take control and make a statement. There are plenty of excuses for what happened today (blah, blah, blah), but Kirk has to own up to his part. I know he's the best statistical QB ever to play for us, but I don't trust him to win a playoff game.

Dan and Bruce have driven the bus into a ditch, and we're going to be here for a while.

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[quote=mooby;1184648]Was today a big loss? It sounds like some people are mad we didn't finish the season on a strong note today.

S/N what happened to the notion of fielding the best 53, and winning a SB like that? Do people realize Kirk has a 24 million cap hit this year? Adding another few mil onto that is not going to break our backs.[/quote]

Losing another week 17 game to a divisional opponent, and a shitty one at that, is kind of a big deal. Especially with .500 on the line. He just doesn't have the goods when you need the goods. He can't beat Giants or Cowboys. So every year we're automatic for 3 or 4 losses. If we resign him obviously I'll root for him, but after another meltdown, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1184666]Losing another week 17 game to a divisional opponent, and a shitty one at that, is kind of a big deal. Especially with .500 on the line. He just doesn't have the goods when you need the goods. He can't beat Giants or Cowboys. So every year we're automatic for 3 or 4 losses. If we resign him obviously I'll root for him, but after another meltdown, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.[/quote]

Who do you want to bring in here that's better than Cousins? Deshawn Watson isn't in this draft. You can keep Alex Smith or Andy Dalton. Everyone has a hard on for Baker Mayfield, he certainly makes plays with both his arm and legs.

Re: @ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year !
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1184666]Losing another week 17 game to a divisional opponent, and a shitty one at that, is kind of a big deal. [B]Especially with .500 on the line[/B]. He just doesn't have the goods when you need the goods. He can't beat Giants or Cowboys. So every year we're automatic for 3 or 4 losses. If we resign him obviously I'll root for him, but after another meltdown, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.[/quote]

I can't take you seriously because of this line. Nobody in the NFL gets amped up to finish the season at .500. Would it be a solid statement to make after all the injuries? Sure. But it's nowhere near the same as finishing the season strong trying to make a playoff run or just get in.