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[quote=Meks;1291605]i really liked what i saw out of reeves ..... i wish they would move collins all together to LB -- also realized i quoted the wrong post - meant the one about 'hey is he whats wrong with the 2ndary'[/quote]

Agree. I'd have Collins as 2nd/3rd down LB with Holcomb (nickel) and as the 1 Dime LB; both until Davis 'gets it' and we see what he can do. I would consider McCain as SS with Curl at FS though, as I haven't seen enough of Everett to be convinced he can step up. Bostic should only be in on expected run downs. If we've got the talent I'd run a semi-permanent Dime style D the way the Rams did (does?). Given we face 7 or 8 games against QB's capable of taking off, our upcoming opponents must have noted how much acreage Jones has covered against us on the ground?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1291600]Same here. I hope Scott Turner gets a bit more creative and finds a way to get the running game going. As I've been saying ad nauseum we have way too much talent at RB to have effing Danny Jones out rush our team. Part of keeping Heinecke healthy will be to not ask him to throw it 40+ times a game.[/quote]

I think the running game is going well. Like you though, I was also thinking that this team needs to run the ball more. However, it looks like through two games they are running it about 42% of the time - which is about middle of the pack as far as run/pass ratios go. Only three teams ran more than they passed last year.

That being said, I think it would go a long way to help the defense if they can figure out a way to effectively run the ball more, and sustain longer drives that way. It's going to be tough this week though, as Buffalo is pretty stingy against the run. They are equally stingy against the pass though, so it's going to require a real nice game plan from Scott Turner.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1291610]I think the running game is going well. Like you though, I was also thinking that this team needs to run the ball more. However, it looks like through two games they are running it about 42% of the time - which is about middle of the pack as far as run/pass ratios go. Only three teams ran more than they passed last year.



That being said, I think it would go a long way to help the defense if they can figure out a way to effectively run the ball more, and sustain longer drives that way. It's going to be tough this week though, as Buffalo is pretty stingy against the run. They are equally stingy against the pass though, [B]so it's going to require a real nice game plan from Scott Turner.[/B][/QUOTE]

We are doomed.

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My thoughts too, just didn't want to go there...

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Heinicke had reached out to Turner mid season about a coaching job, and Turner told him to hold off, the team might need a qb.

I thought that was interesting.

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Nice [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6oij79eGA"]breakdown video[/URL] on Heinicke by Kurt Warner. Heinicke still has ways to go as he missed several opportunities to make big plays, and it actually makes Turner looks better as he called some good plays but Heinicke didn't take advantage of it.

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Turner is doing a pretty good job, I though so last year too. Not sure why some fans are so down on him.

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[quote=GridIron26;1291791]Nice [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6oij79eGA"]breakdown video[/URL] on Heinicke by Kurt Warner. Heinicke still has ways to go as he missed several opportunities to make big plays, and it actually makes Turner looks better as he called some good plays but Heinicke didn't take advantage of it.[/quote]

4:20 mark .... hurts to see. Big play TD right in front of him, where his eyes were looking with no pressure ... Heinike takes the short gain. Thats been a pattern.

there is so much good film breakdown content out there.

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[quote=MTK;1291792]Turner is doing a pretty good job, I though so last year too. Not sure why some fans are so down on him.[/quote]

He literally had us in shotgun what... 99% of the time the other night... thats great and all run the pistol but it cant be advantageous to have 1 base formation in a game ... can it?

Lol he just pisses me off sometimes with the play calls and really makes some bone head choices sometimes.

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[quote=SunnySide;1291796]4:20 mark .... hurts to see. Big play TD right in front of him, where his eyes were looking with no pressure ... Heinike takes the short gain. Thats been a pattern.

there is so much good film breakdown content out there.[/quote]

he should grow out of this and into a better coverage reader

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[quote=MTK;1291792]Turner is doing a pretty good job, I though so last year too. Not sure why some fans are so down on him.[/quote]

Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.

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[quote=SunnySide;1291799]Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.[/quote]

Bottom 3 offense last year with myriad of issues at QB.

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[quote=SunnySide;1291799]Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

[B]Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG[/B]

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.[/quote]

This was bothering me right after the game. Now my view is let the play makers earn their money. I do hope the training wheels come off a bit more against Buffalo but against a defense like the Giants I am good with it,

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[quote=SunnySide;1291796]4:20 mark .... hurts to see. Big play TD right in front of him, where his eyes were looking with no pressure ... Heinike takes the short gain. Thats been a pattern.

there is so much good film breakdown content out there.[/quote]

Yep, I just saw the video you posted in another thread. I like that video better than Warner's as the guy covered some positives by Heinicke too.

The bottom line is Heinicke still have a long way to go.

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I really wish the NFL could broadcasts games live in All-22. Without that or watching it after, even the smartest warpather is speculating/guessing a lot of what we're seeing, especially on pass plays.