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[quote=88Commanders00;1375135]Training camp is in full swing. The last camp for many coaches.

[U]Training Camp Hot Seat[/U]

Giants- Probably, the hottest seat out there. Daboll is likely dead man walking. If the Giants don't finish with at least 7-8 wins; showing some improvement. He's done. Especially, if Dart plays most of season.
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Giants have Wilson and Winston(DeVito), what makes you think Dart will start at all?

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[quote=Giantone;1375138]Giants have Wilson and Winston(DeVito), what makes you think Dart will start at all?[/quote]

Wilson is cooked and when the Giants starts with a losing record and Daboll gets fired; Mara will want a look at Dart.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1375139]Wilson is cooked and when the Giants starts with a losing record and Daboll gets fired; Mara will want a look at Dart.[/quote]I honestly think Mara was too lazy to fire Daboll last year and go through a new coach process. They were 3-14, and Daboll isn't exactly the most well liked coach around. Maybe Mara will be up to it next offseason lol.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375143]I honestly think Mara was too lazy to fire Daboll last year and go through a new coach process. They were 3-14, and [B]Daboll isn't exactly the most well liked coach around[/B]. Maybe Mara will be up to it next offseason lol.[/quote]


Actually none of that is true but I understand.

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[quote=Giantone;1375179]Actually none of that is true but I understand.[/quote]

Perception is reality!

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[quote=Meks;1375180]Perception is reality![/quote]

Giants will be awful again and Daboll will be fired before the season ends.

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[quote=Giantone;1375179]Actually none of that is true but I understand.[/quote]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375183]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?[/quote]

Do we want him fired? ;)

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375183]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?[/quote]

I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.

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[quote=Giantone;1375190]I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.[/quote]

It’s because Mara sucks. He’s poor in making head coach and gm
Decisions.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1375187]Do we want him fired? ;)[/quote]No although I do like their draft with Carter and Dart. Just don't see him being successful there long term.

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[quote=Giantone;1375190]I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.[/quote]Lawrence and Nabers calling team soft: [url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42590210/giants-players-call-team-soft-question-effort-loss[/url]

Giants players losing faith: [url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/09/20/some-new-york-giants-players-beginning-lose-faith-brian-daboll/75303235007/[/url]

Also, Daboll has been head coach there for 3 years not 2. I don't care honestly just want him retained. Pretty unusual to be there that long and have as bad of a season as they did and not get fired. I stand by my theory Mara didn't want to deal with as getting a new head coach as the process can be cumbersome.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375204]Lawrence and Nabers calling team soft: [url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42590210/giants-players-call-team-soft-question-effort-loss[/url]

Giants players losing faith: [url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/09/20/some-new-york-giants-players-beginning-lose-faith-brian-daboll/75303235007/[/url]

Also, Daboll has been head coach there for 3 years not 2. I don't care honestly just want him retained. Pretty unusual to be there that long and have as bad of a season as they did and not get fired. I stand by my theory Mara didn't want to deal with as getting a new head coach as the process can be cumbersome.[/quote]

Point is that the previous 3 coaches never made it past 2 seasons.Since Tom Coughlin departed as the head coach after the 2015 season, the Giants have had five head coaches, including Daboll.

Earlier this year, co-owner John Mara gave Schoen and Daboll a vote of confidence, pretty much telegraphing his future plans. Change for the sake of change is how he got here. Standing pat might be the right strategy this time around.


Your one link is two players questioning the play of fellow teammates I have no problem with players leading in the locker room your link on Daboll is a BS opinion from a reporter who had been in DS with the team. Not sure he even covers them anymore. Like I said not going to change any minds but what you posted wasn't true.


AI,While there isn't a single definitive answer, some New York Giants players have publicly expressed positive opinions of head coach Brian Daboll. Specifically, veteran wide receiver Darius Slayton has voiced support for Daboll and general manager Joe Schoen, suggesting they should be retained for another year to continue their work. Other players have highlighted Daboll's positive impact on the team's culture and his ability to foster a positive environment.

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Please stop posting AI results lol

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[quote=Giantone;1375212]Like I said not going to change any minds but what you posted wasn't true.[/quote]It is totally on Daboll to create a positive culture within his own team. Players calling out the team as soft and questioning the team's effort is an extraordinary indictment of a coach who isn't getting it done. Again, I don't care if the players like him or not. He has done nothing worthwhile in the NFL and is very fortunate to still be a head coach. Nearly impossible to believe a coach is well liked whose team is being called soft by it's own personnel, questioning fellow teammates effort in games, and losing faith in their coach while winning 3 games total in 1 season.